IR / SIR Tierlist - Black Bolt VS White Flare

Its time for a Tierlist again! This time I created two Tierlists, one for each of the new upcoming BW Sets, so that you can see and share which of the two sets you prefer & of course, to appreciate the artwork of each of the cards while going through.
Which of these two sets do you prefer, and why?

Black Bolt:
https://tiermaker.com/create/black-bolt-16788423

White Flare:
https://tiermaker.com/create/white-flare-16788423

Here are my results:


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Here are my tier lists, between the 2 I have to give it to Black Bolt.

BB has better art overall from my view with more artists who use sharp and clean styles.

Best thing about both sets whether I like the style or not is that a lot of artists really really pushed their styles onto the card and it is nice to see them all give such a strong dose of their souls on a full sized canvas.

Prior to this Pokekyun was my favorite special set of all time. This is now first, making Pokekyun second, and VMAX Climax third.

I count both BB and WF combined as a special set (when it comes to the 144 AR 12 SAR and 3 BWR subset) even though I know they are not.

Best part of it all is I hate gen 5 Pokemom design wise and only like 17/156, and yet I’m smitten with this “special set.” Bravo Pokemon you got me

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You’re missing Victini, Gothitelle and Reuniclus.


Not sure an artist whose style I disliked managed to rise above bad. I think the most disappointing would be Saboteri since the rest I don’t expect to like their cards.

Also in 8 days, we’ll get HD pictures of all of them which would probably help since the tints are pretty bad on the scans.

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I did not include these three since they arent in the english set. I wanted a comparison of the english, but shouldve specified that of course!

Black Bolt

White Flare

Honestly, they’re both pretty equal but White Flare has a bigger amount of cards I would not like to get. So Black Bolt wins.

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I just focused on my very favorites from each set. There’s so much great artwork in both sets!

White Flare:

Black Bolt:

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Guys i’ve almost finished the sv11B/sv11W master set, but i’m not sure if I should include the promos like red Vicitini and AR victini…do you consider them necessary to complete a “master set”. Where would you do draw the line and why

That really depends on what you feel makes it complete.

Did you include every type of card variant (regular, poke, master, AR, SAR, BWR, promos) or only certain ones?

I’m working on one as well.

For me the master set is all the ARs and SARs along with the BWR Resh and Zek (no normal cards or normal full arts or poke/master balls) in dex order.

The full dex of ARs, SARs, plus the BWR are what makes the set special to me so that’s all I’m going to grab from it.

At first I wasn’t even going to go for my version of the master set because I only like 17 pokemon from Gen 5, to me it is the ugliest gen by far.

But then when all the special arts got revealed I liked around half of them. That is rare for me as I am very particular about the art I like.

Because so many different artists showed off their skill on a bunch of ugly Pokemon so well I ended up liking a bunch of their pieces I decided to master it.

Since there is a promo Victini AR and regular AR I just went with the regular because I don’t care for spending money to have the same AR card art twice.

This would only change for me if an AR I liked got a promo that had the same art but with a different foil treatment. Having a different set letters, or saying promo, or an exclusive crossover brand stamp is not enough for me to get another AR.

As for the Victini BWR I’ll get it in English when it dips a good amount, unless the Japanese one can dip substantially as well which is very unlikely.

Was able to get all the ARs along with the Whimsicott and Excadrill SARs in one swoop from Buyee before the tariff bs for about $460 USD (average of $3.15 a card) and now filling the higher priced gaps of SARs and the BWRs slowly since I’m collecting other new cards and old chases all at the same time.

Glad to hear you are almost done, and can’t wait to see your finished set and how you present it!

Individual rows are not ordered by favorite (they’re chronological).

Greetz,
Quuador

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poor stunfisk

Here it is ! (almost) : https://youtu.be/JHPq6meRc7g

So i’ve decided that both victini, AR and BWR promos, will not be necessary for my “classic” or “standard” master set for two reasons : 1) they don’t enter the main numbering of the set 2) i don’t have any artistic appeal towards them

So the construction of what i define for myself as a “standard” master set of sv11 is :

regular / pokeball holo / masterball holo

for RR it’s 3 in a row

for trainers it’s : regular / pokeball / pokeball since there is no master ball

one empty row for the AR set to be aligned

I found that the master ball are not very entizing to collect or display. Very little differentiate them from the PBs, except they do not have printlines (almost all PBs have printlines) For most people i would suggest to just collect the ARs, that’s the meat of the set.

The vaultx binders for the set are on their way, i do not plan on keeping the set inside these (although they did the job quite well)

The missing AR/SAR i’m waiting for the set to cool down and get them at a lower floor

i opened 2 white flare BB’s and 2 black bolt BB’s in total (luckily i got the Zekrom BWR in one), the rest comes from yuyutei

in total not trying to buy everything at the lowest so i’m around 1400€ and expect to complete everything under 2000. Planning to do the same thing for the upcoming gen 3 set. Overall i’d say the weak point is the master balls. They are expensive (same price as ARs) but not satisfying to collect. TPC should figure out a way to differenciate them more

Someone posted the full master set (in english) with the new vaultx big binder : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkOAi2QIQE

Is this the most visually satisfying master set ever ? i think i’ll pass it to my nephews giving them randomized 100 cards pack each year until complete. i cannot wait for the gen 3 one with all the ARs

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thankfully they did these print to order. So I got mine in. I got this and just regular binders, not sure of what I’d settle on. Its kind of big…but Its cool. The guy in the video missed the gimmick here. You flip the binder and both sides are the front for each set. Not that I’d do it that way.