Instagram Folks Aren't Your Friends and Family

Glad I’ve never used it Dan lol.

Honestly there is nothing to worry about on Instagram when you buy or sell as long as you protect yourself with PayPal and shipping insurance just like eBay. The only people that have trouble are those that don’t follow the appropriate steps to protect themselves. plain and simple.

Regarding Friends/Family payments:

I try to keep some of my PayPal accts under either the 200 trans or 20,000.00 payments, due to the IRS form it generates, so I often accept only f/f.

Businesses naturally do bank wires, checks, cash payments that do no have fees. The core of the problem is Instagram/social media, not the payment type.

I would also go a step further and say the Pokemon social media community can be very fickle. There are plenty of known scammers, assholes and the like, but individuals will be strategically silent rather than properly block and avoid the toxicity.

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It’s redundant and stupid. When we negotiate a price or the seller has a set price, that price should incorporate expenses. It simplifies everything.
I have a card I want $30 for. Someone messages me and wants to buy it. Instead of them simply sending me $30 we have to agree to split fees and now I’m calculating 30 x .029 which is .87 then adding shipping, let’s call it $3. Now add .30 and we have $4.17. Don’t forget to divide it by two, chuckle chuckle, and you have the final amount to be added at $2.09.
How bout advertise the price as $32 shipped and just save everyone the time?

I totally agree. Walmart should do the same about incorporating taxes into the shelf prices…much like gas stations do.

for a card with that low is not the best example for higher valued items the fees are a lot more $100 + and sometimes listing the item with the fees included might scare a buyer away so they don’t even get the chance to contact you and who knows maybe you are negotiable on the price but now you didn’t even have a chance to speak with that person and negotiate a price. Its all about just getting the chance to speak with someone that might be interested and building rapor with them. when I make a sale I’m not trying to make a quick sale I try to earn that persons trust and build a relationship with them so hopefully they come back or bring others. sales are all about relationships, trust and speaking with others. I think splitting is a great idea and I stand by that but to each his own.

As we all know, most things in life are negotiable. I don’t think I have ever paid the listing price on Instagram. So if you get the seller to come down a little the waters get a bit murkier about shipping and PayPal fees. Prices are never firm…even if they say it is. :wink:

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exactly there is always some sort of room for a little negotiation

Sure, maybe if the item is not high in demand or price is above market value. But when you have a scare item that has high demand and an extremely good price that’s firm, I think it’s better to abandon this mindset. Just jump on it immediately.

All you do is risk pissing off the seller or someone snatching it right from under you. I know for a fact with a few people on here, if you try to negotiate a reasonable and firm price you’ll get ignored.

Thank you for providing both of these I just had a conversation with some guy who was going to buy both of these cert #'s glad I got him away from the scammers.

Just an update: I got paypal to refund me today after begging them a bit. Dodged a $1800 bullet there lol… Also who was selling the #990? Some guy on craiglist or that Justin guy?

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I don’t know how you got your money back sending friends and family I thought that was impossible.

He said the guy told him it was “Michael Gordon” but I’m not sure which that was, prob a fake name anyway. The guy was so thankful he almost paid money order for BOTH cards so he would’ve been out thousands.

I told them it was an unauthorized transaction. They looked at my paypal activity and deemed it a very unusual transaction, since I have 100s of G&S of < $200 and no F&F transactions in years, let alone F&F in that high dollar amount. I also told them I think my paypal password was keylogged and that’s how the transaction happened since I was a student and use paypal and the university library (a lie of course). Good thing I have a silver tongue because they believed me.

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congrats on getting your money back man! really glad to hear that. its a lesson learned but thankfully you got away unharmed! haha

wow man! first man on Mars lol

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That’s genius lol

I have mixed feelings on this, but kudos for getting your money back and the creativity to do so!

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I think PayPal just eats it that’s where a portion of our 2.9% fee goes towards is payouts of theft. I mean they will try to freeze the account that scammed but that only works if the scammer hasn’t withdrawn the funds

I was working out a deal with someone on Facebook recently (stating in my post that my price reflects an ‘invoiced and shipped’ price) and I still got asked how much I wanted for the fees. Weird culture. I’ve seen the fee literally invoiced to people as a line item in some invoice screenshots and that makes me laugh so much. It’s a seller’s fee- why would you bill it to the buyer?