We are seeing supply and demand in action.
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many of the high value ones such as rayray, latias, latios went unpaid last year in a 10 at a fraction of the âprivate salesâ today 
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Have the box prices increased as well? Last deoxys sealed booster was 100k if I recall, legit and ripped live by clovr. In fact they hit a ray if I recall just last week. While sealed has not alway gone hand in hand and surpassed singles the times are a changin.
The box has gone up, but nowhere near as much as the cards have. Deoxys was a $40k box back when PSA 9 Ray was $7k and PSA 9 Latias was $2k.
Did clovr sell out the box at $100k? Someone linked me the stream several hours into it and he had only sold like 2 packs by that point lol.
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I believe they did or came close last time I watched. I agree singles out paced boxed for first time in a while. Almost like people said better to just buy singles vs gamble if ripping. Logic still need not apply at the lower levels (costs). I wonder though if you have to spend 200k, GS in Deoxys 1in2 boxes on average and then could be any of the 3 for 6 boxes 600,000 if LUCKY and as much 7 figures if notâŚis the price of a 9 or 10 or any of the grades too much? I still believe this is supply and demand scenario, money discovered the hobby and the smart money wants the best. jmo
âboxâ prices that whatnot streamers quote are mostly bs they havent paid anywhere near that price just like how when they pull a âhitâ they quote the psa 10 price even tho the chance it will grade a 10 is like 2% max
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From 40-41k to 57k .. holy poo
I know the guys at clovr the money and purchases at shows are real.
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Box breakers do upcharge. Thatâs the business model. The client base is not able to spend the money for a whole box, but spread it around and more people can buy into it.
It is essentially a completely different market.
Itâs why we donât include box break prices in the ex box tracker thread. And were fairly conservative using private data too even when we know for a fact that itâs legit.
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donât forget that the âclient baseâ has maybe a 1% chance of making 4-5x their money and a 99% chance of losing 90% of it
PSA 8 just sold for the price of last weekâs PSA 9. Seems unbelievable. Maybe itâs a new cert vs. old cert thing, or maybe itâs just FOMO.
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Have there been any recent Neo Rev double holo (1st edition) Magikarp or Gyarados sales?
Feel like I havenât seen any of those pop up recently, especially in higher grades.
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No high grade sales in 2025 to my knowledge.
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Gotcha, thanks. Had a feeling your Gyarados was the most recent one.
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If a âgoodâ PSA 8 sells for $12k, then what is a âgoodâ PSA 9 going to sell for? Before the boom, Torchic 
wasnât very close to Rayquaza , but now they are approaching similar prices. Mudkip was even further away.
It seems crazy for a card to fluctuate ~$5k within one week (30%-50%), but thatâs the type of boom weâre in.
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I havenât been following high-grade gold stars, but seems like low-grades are definitely falling. For example PSA 1 GS Mew peaked at $1600 July 13 but has multiple sales this week at around $1200. PSA 3 GS Mew has stagnated around #1300, PSA 4 sold yesterday for $1400 after peaking with a $1600 sale in early July as well. PSA 5 Torchic went for $3550 a few days ago after hitting $3700 7/21, a PSA 6 copy seems to be getting relisted multiple times after (I think) not reaching the 4k high from a few weeks ago?
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Hard to say, need to wait for a copy to come up I guess
I understand fully the concept behind breaking but the going price is now 100k for a ex deoxys box. Regardless of who buys it. Break it, flip it, rip it for fun yourself or shelve it, it be 100k. The mistake is believing the 100k acquistion cost was inflated. The inflation comes when sold per pack during the break and the total exceeds 100k aka the breakers profit, which is exactly what transpired just last week. These boxes were approx 40k - 60k 4-5 years ago.