For those of you who have bought a "grail/out of reach card" how did it feel?

Hi everyone, with a turn of events I have now become in more of a position to buy a card that I thought was out of my reach. While it is more expensive than I’d want to pay for it in general, it is following the smpratte phrase of buy or bye.

Though as I started on my search, I’ve been wondering… is it the card that I really want or the anticipation of buying the card. Will owning this make me happier or is there something else that is worth while to spend the money on?

For some context, I’ve wanted this card for a few years now so I know it’s not an impulsive buy, but I’ve seen a variety of forum members here say that once they achieved the goal, it wasn’t as exciting for them anymore and I have a bit of fear around that feeling. Part of it may just be money anxiety around spending on something that I actually really want, but part of me wonders a bit deeper on what does cardboard from the childhood do for us as collectors. I know its individual but it’s something that I’m uncertain on what makes me really so excited to potentially own a card like this.

Would love to hear thoughts on this and what your holistic experiences have been :pikaconfused:

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For context, my collecting style is slim and focused, so I’m always able to appreciate the entirety of my collection.

I don’t have any ultra big grails, but for the grails that I do own, for me the anticipation is absolutely bigger than the actual purchase. I imagine that’s true for just about everything in life.

However, I look at my cards often, and although the excitement is never to the level of the previous anticipation, each time I appreciate them just the same, That’s worth it to me.

Also because I’d be kicking myself a few years down the line, looking sadly at an Ebay auction with five days remaining that’s going for 5x of what I could’ve gotten it for before.

I also think a lot about the financial aspect, as it’s likely a big commitment. Just know that if it’s truly desirable or rare, you won’t have trouble selling it quickly, although you might have to take a 10-20% hit. Although in this market, you might be up 10-20%.

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Ill let you know when that time comes. I do think though that for me personally I dont think it will scratch the same itch because most grails have been within reach before, but most seem too scary to consider financially now. Id rather take a trip, or fuel up my car in this economy. XD

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GREAT thread and I can’t wait to see people’s answers.

I’ve never experienced this in Pokémon but the time may come for me in the future if I can work out a giant trade at some point.

I did however, do this 10 years ago in a different hobby and it’s a decision I have never regretted, I still love it just as much a decade later. So for me it felt great, and I would recommend it to anyone in the position to do so, BUT I think there are some key things to consider with regard to Pokémon cards -

In my example I use this thing near enough every day, I’m constantly engaging with it and marvelling at it. I’m constantly reminded why I love it, there is never any time for doubt to form. If you will do the same with your card, constantly marvelling at it and looking in giddy disbelief at the fact that you own it, tilting the holo in the light just right etc. Then I think you will feel fulfilled. If this is a card that you will send straight to the PSA vault, never hold, and only see through a scanned image then I think your feelings could be very different.

I also think it would feel much more special if the card is a grail due to absolute rarity rather than conditional rarity. If this is an item in a completely new price tier for you, I can imagine it could bring on pretty damn strong feelings of ‘was it worth it’ to get it in your hands and the only difference is one less white speck.

Just my 2 cents :man_shrugging:

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Like your ego is in some sort of elite exclusive club and when you look down and all you see is peasants!!! lol joking but truly for me at least I brought cards that were not out for reach that become out of reach, but if does feel special when you have grinded for a certian card that you have wanted and had to take a longtime building for it, its very fulfilling, also to add I get much ore fulfilment over a card being rare rather than expensive, I think the value proposition is more satisfying

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I think the exciting feeling fading over time a bit is normal. Just before you purchase the card, and even more so just before it arrives, the anticipation of it is at its peak. Especially for a card you’ve wanted for a long time (and even more so if that card is the final piece of a goal you’ve been working on for multiple years imo).

Having said that, I defintely don’t regret buying the cards that fit that description. A total of three purchased cards come to mind in the eleven years I’ve been collecting (although just the last two were also expensive in addition to rare grails):

Japanese unlimited edition WCP Seviper
I’m going over the three in chronological order, but this one wasn’t too expensive. Iirc I paid like 50 bucks for it. Nonetheless, it was a grail, and marked the last card to 100% my all-language TCG collection of my favorite Pokémon, which I had been trying to complete for 3.5 years at that point.
The feeling of finally 100% completing that collection when it arrived was almost euphoric, and yes, now that it is complete and I’ve been focusing on other collection goals, the feeling is a lot less than it used to be. Nonetheless, I’m still very happy to have this complete collection of my favorite Pokémon, and can still append to it with new releases over time, and that feeling won’t ever go away.

English Art Academy Pikachu by Ashley
This one hits your category a lot more, and is also a lot more special to me. Collecting all Pikachu in all languages has been my goal when I came back collecting in mid-2015, so I’ve been working on it for eleven years already. And although I’ve adjusted this collection goal to just the first 25 years for all languages (aka, up to February 27th, 2021 - the 25th Pokémon Day), since it became too expensive to continue at the same pace, I still continued with every single English Pikachu variation after that date (plus some exceptions: one of each non-English unique artwork, and all Base Set reprints).
When I was contacted by chibi/Sam, who recently upgraded his BGS-8 copy to a BGS-9, asking if I wanted to buy this card - the final English Pikachu TCG card I was missing, and just one of ten missing Pikachu cards to ‘complete’ my Pikachu collection - I was at first a bit scared of the price (for context, this was in early Fall 2024, and we settled on a price of 14k USD for it), but I simply couldn’t let the opportunity pass.
I knew that if I didn’t buy it then, I likely wouldn’t be able to afford it anymore in the future and possibly never own it, and 100% completing the English portion of my Pikachu collection was too great to pass on. I may have already had most other languages at 100% (for the first 25 years), but English and Japanese both feel that much more special, and even more so since I had continued with collecting all English Pikachu TCG cards even after the 25th anniversary. So even though it costed more than the car I had bought half a year prior and it still to this day is my most expensive bought product ever, minus my house, I’m still very happy I bought it and don’t regret it one bit.

German Surf-Pikachu promo
This one is the most recent, bought in September last year. Right now, every one of the missing Pikachu cards are grails for me. Five of them I’m simply priced out of (4x Japanese Art Academy cards, which are currently going for 150k-250k each, and the Pikachu SNAP, which is valued at roughly 1M-2M - if it would ever re-sell in the first place); and the other three (German Flug-Pikachu, Spanish Pikachu Surfista, and Spanish Pikachu Volador) I’ve only seen twice each in the 10+ years I’ve been collecting. This German Surf-Pikachu is in the same category as those three, in that this was the third copy I had seen, and only the first I had the opportunity for to buy.
So obviously, I jumped on it with everything I had. It ended higher than I was expecting tbh. But, lucky not too high, since I basically paid my absolute max for it by emptying my - at the time already low - savings account, and I even paid groceries and gas on credit after the purchase that month, while my regular bank account would handle the automatic payments (mortgage, insurances, internet/electricity, multiple monthly charities, etc.).
I’ve also bought some cards in December, but I’m honestly still saving money and not buying anything rn due to those two purchases (plus additional non-collection purchase in the form of a solar battery, which will be installed later this month).
Anyway, considering how rare this card is, and how this was the first and only opportunity to buy it in 10+ years time, I defintely don’t regret buying it, that’s for sure. It may be a bit annoying how behind I am with new releases today (over 150 cards already across my different collection goals, and counting.. :sweat_smile: ), but I’m not too worried about their availability and will add all of them eventually (hopefully all later this year).


Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, just wanted to share my own experiences with it.

Whether it will be worth it for you, is completely up to you. :person_shrugging: None of us can make that decision for you, since it depends on so many different factors, like your financial situation rn or after the purchase; what the availability of the card in general is, even ignoring its price-tag for a moment; what makes the card so special for you; how would you feel if you do decide to pass on it (both rn, and down the line); etc.

My motto with collecting has always been: “You’d only have to spend the money once, and then you can enjoy the collectable item for the rest of your life.” (Although I’m also the first to admit it’s a pretty bad motto to live by, ngl. :wink: )

Greetz,
Quuador

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I bought it and upon receiving it I was looking for defects and thinking “meh this is just cardboard”
Ultimately any pokemon card I look at, even the pretty ones, the expensive ones, the historically loaded ones, is just a piece of printed cardboard in the end.

The true value and excitement for me is in the chase and the completion, not so much the object itself. It is of course nice to possess the object, but it is even cooler to dream about it and act upon getting it

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Concur, happiness is fleeting when stuff is the source.

I enjoy the chase and yes from time to time admire things for a moment but ultimately always what’s next comes to mind lol

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Honestly, it was relieving if anything. Knowing that I don’t have to worry about prices rising or other difficulties arising in the future is nice. I wouldn’t recommend committing funds to it if you’ll go homeless if it goes to 0 though. I’m happy and thankful I was able to get the card and a copy I was personally satisfied with.

A lot of people in the forum claim they’ll wait until things depreciate, but there’s no guarantee that happens. In a lot of cases, as is true for my own experiences, you forgo something and you either end up paying more or you miss out altogether. Nothing wrong with refraining as long as you’re aware and okay with potentially never acquiring it.

With that said, they are just pieces of cardboard. They’re a luxury and you’ll survive without them no problem.

I think asking yourself why you want it, and if you would still want it later is important. I have cards that, for me, encapsulate the hobby. Those are cards I would keep in my collection and can justify spending $ on. Everyone’s different, but just things I would ask myself before picking up a larger purchase.

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The card I’m going to talk about is a Lugia Vstar card in CGC pristine 10. This card:

I had started collecting again and I had an opportunity to get a the gold Lugia vstar card in a PSA 10 or a CGC pristine 10. The CGC was $60 so I went ahead and bought it. When I bought it I thought it would be a neat thing to try and get the set of VStars in a pristine 10.

I had purchased the gold vstar Lugia card, and soon after purchased the regular Lugia vstar, but then shortly after that purchase my work started to follow me home, so I quit that job and could no longer afford a budget for pokemans. I started back in school and my wife was fitting our bills, so still no budget. A year went by and I still hadn’t done anything to continue this goal.

Then, I saw the final rainbow vstar card, but I couldn’t afford it (I think it was $120), so then I thought about something I heard once:

“A $2,000 card that you can afford is better than a $1,000 card that you can’t”

So I let it be and trusted that one day I could afford it. The problem was that it didn’t pop up again for another year…and this time even was even more expensive.

However, I was finally able to afford it, so I bought it.

I still look at that card and think about how proud I am of myself that I was able to be disciplined in my budgeting. The “feeling” is gone, but it’s so much more than feeling. It’s knowing and remembering the work and the waiting. It’s a sense of accomplishment and pride that I was able to get a card after over 2 years of waiting.

So yeah I mean the feeling is gone but it’s not about the feeling it’s about the friends you made along the way the card representing something else.

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Really good in the moment. A bit lost after. Idk it just felt I’ve reached the end it was a bit of a bummer. Ended up selling pretty soon after to pursue other life goals. But recently got it back just in a slightly lower grade. I appreciate it a lot more the second time around and it feels like the start of a collecting journey, not the end

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Getting exactly what you want in collecting is immensely rewarding and equally defeating. When that goal is eventually reached after years of dedication and hard work, it may leave us ecstatic and empty. It’s typically not one emotion or the other, but a mixture of both, and waves of confusion due to the internal conflicts of pride and listlessness.


“What next?” seems to be the question that pushes many collectors toward greater and more extravagant goals. If this card would make you feel complete in some way, I think you should definitely go for it. However, if it’s a “gateway” card that will leave you feeling incomplete (i.e., wanting to bite off more than you can chew with downstream collecting goals), I would be strategic with your next steps.

Hope this helps!

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Hi nikhil,

It is great that you are asking these questions before you commit to what sounds like a large purchase. The significance of the item will play a large role to your response once you receive the item. Is this card primarily to complete a checklist for your collection? Or is this actually a personal “grail” card that you would be willing to sacrifice the majority of your cards for?

Another consideration worth noting is your financial status - are you in a position in your life where you are entirely content with your quality of life (QOL)? If you have additional aspirations to improve your QOL, however small or large, you may start to view your collection/grail card as dollar signs instead of amazing cardboard. Speaking from experience, actively ignoring the $ to fully appreciate your personal collection can be very laborious and draining when there are clear sacrifices to your QOL…not to mention the concerns of security and protection for unplanned hazards that may be present for owning such items.

Ultimately, your response to completing a collecting goal is deeply personal and entirely dependent on you and you alone, but you are asking the right questions!

Hope this helps! :slight_smile:
cpbog1

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It was a good call. AA Ashley Pikachu is much more expensive now.

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When it arrives ill let you know

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There are a number of cards in my species collection that took months to track down and acquire. Nothing particularly expensive, mostly just niche all-language cards that I spent a lot of time and effort finding.

For me, I definitely prefer owning them over the time I spent chasing them. I look at my collection often, and every time I get to a card that was especially difficult to acquire, I smile and remember the story.

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It seems reasonable to me that it could be both. If it’s a card you really truly want, of course you’re going to have a lot of anticipation about owning it. But that doesn’t mean buying the card won’t be satisfying either! I bought a Tropical Mega Battle Lucky Stadium fairly recently and that was the most I had ever spent on a collectible item in my life. I love owning it and everything about it. I don’t have the excitement and anticipation of obtaining it everyday, but just because that part fell away doesn’t make owning it any less enjoyable. I truly love that card and I’m so stoked it’s mine.

This part seems like an entirely separate set of questions. “Will owning this make me happier” is only answerable for you in a context. Happier than what? Than having XX number of dollars in a bank account? Happier than the anticipation? Happier than whatever else you want to spend money on? Maybe, but I can’t answer that for you. Thinking back on it I think the key for me is I had put myself in the financial position that I didn’t feel a need to answer if it was more worthwhile to spend money on something else, which I think is ultimately why I can enjoy owning it so much. If I was stressing about house payments, retirement, future children, or if my job was in the balance, there is no way I would have been able to go through with buying it. And while I’m obviously biased to think that the method I went through is right, the process and rationale is going to be completely different for different people.

With that in mind, maybe take some reflection and honestly ask yourself what level of comfort you need financially, emotionally, and personally to go through with it. My gut tells me if you’re already being this thoughtful about it and seeking being wise rather than happiness and hype, you’ll end up absolutely cherishing the card if you purchase it.

And just to re-bottom line this, I absolutely LOVE my grail card :pikalove:

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Chasing a “grail” card feels a lot like an infatuation, filled with excitement and desire.

When you finally obtain that card, you feel relieved and happy, but can’t shake the feeling that some of that initial spark is lost.

Over time, looking at your grail card brings a much deeper appreciation. While you may not feel as excited, it feels stable and rewarding.

In short, chasing a grail card is like a crush, but owning a grail card long-term is akin to a stable marriage (or partnership).

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Some years or decades ago the chase of a rare or “out of reach” item may have been the motivation that bringed us here today. These days I feel that concept doesn’t exist anymore. It’s either having the money to pay for something or not having it. The concept of out of reach became more like out of budget. Maybe it’s thrilling to get something rare cheaper but it’s not the same or I don’t enjoy it the same way.

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This was my holy grail and as soon as I had the chance to score it I reached out. It arrived yesterday :slight_smile:



it’s not the most expensive, but definitely probably the hardest to find Oddish I have been looking for and now my jungle set is pretty much done! (Thinking of getting a mint 10 graded japanese jungle vs binder copy but in all reality I’ll prob get both cause they are not too pricey so why not?)

It feels like a relief honestly, because it is SO HARD TO FIND 1st EDITION PORTUGUESE

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