One of the more interesting semi-vintage sets is Evolutions.
It´s not a very good set, but it does have a Base-Set feel to it. It features a lot of the original holo cards. Not only that, but some of those cards have a new spin on them by having a different type (Nidoking and Clefairy).
What´s even more interesting is that a lot of these cards have POP´s (PSA) of under 100, with some even having POP´s under 20. With the popularity of Evolutions I would think that at some point these cards will be sought after, however, the fact that they are essentially Base-Set 3 cards also means that they compete with 1 and 2 which could hinder that.
PSA 10 Evolutions cards are impossible to grade hence the pop report.
Unless there was one good print run, you should expect a psa 8 quality card out of the pack.
I don’t know the current price for a random holo in PSA 10 but it would probably cost 20x the price to open product and try and grade them yourself.
What does that have to do with chilling mate. Semi-vintage, getting vintage. The word isn´t really relevant right? Why not actually respond to the question.
Exactly this. I guess mass printing has gotten a new definition since Sword & Shield, but still, Evolutions was printed a lot. The print quality was bad, yeah, but numbers this low makes little sense.
As a Base2 enjoyer I would say go for it, reprints are cool.
I think silversnorlax completed a PSA10 set if you’re interested, it’s indeed a worthy challenge.
To me it seems like the set is already pretty optimized. You’re not going to get a great deal on the very low pop cards and there are far too many of the high pop cards. Additionally, if you compare the Charizord pop to the Clefairy pop, you can see how undergraded many of the non-charzord holos are. Which makes sense because why would you grade a Clefairy that’s almost guaranteed to become a $3 card? Should the singles blow up, you’ll be able to see how much supply is out there ungraded. That has a big price dampening effect.
So, while anything can happen, there’s no reason to think these prices are going to change in the immediate future. And there’s plenty of reason to be skeptical of any major price movement. In contrast, you can dump your money into any modern sealed product and are almost guaranteed to see a return in a couple years. If it’s purely about speculation, it’s not enough to say that Evolutions holos are a good choice, you have to explain why it’s better than every other choice available.
Yes, fair points. However, the comparison of these cards to Base-Set 1 and 2 (that I also made) may be incorrect. The Clefairy, for instance, is not the same as those cards, so it is it´s own card in a way. It also is a POP 15, which generates it´s own appeal. Also, cards like the Gyarados and Ninetales can still be picked up under 200 while having lower POP´s than their Base-Set counterparts.
A whole generation embraced Evolutions. For them these cards may well be on par with the original Base Set, which has POP´s in the hundreds. You may very well be right, but I think it could have potential, even at higher prices.
But yeah, I think modern sealed is safer. But then again, sealed in general is more safe and not always fun to look at.
I would argue that when it comes to base set, people who are interested will gravitate toward the best possible option that makes sense. That’s why shadowless has always under-performed 1st edition even when it was more scarce.
The problem with Evolutions is that if you go for a PSA 10 set, you are in a price territory that will get you a really good original base set collection, whether it be 1st ed, shadowless or a high grade unlimited. So you’re dependent on people who already have the original base set cards to be also interested in a high-grade Evolutions set, or for people who collect Evolutions to not care about original base.
If you go for a PSA 9 set, there’s so much supply that you’re not really moving the needle on price. Plus you’re buying something - in the case of Clefairy as an example - that isn’t even worth the cost of grading.
I would speculate that to really see movement on Evolutions, you need to see a really strong price increase in original base. To the point where you outprice enough collectors that Evolutions suddenly seems like the best option. That is effectively what happened to the Evolutions box prices a few years back.
Overall I just don’t see Evolutions as underpriced today and I see little reason to believe any variables are currently shifting to change that. That’s my hesitation. Maybe others disagree.
