What do you guys think? Any opportunity with a price that low?
I’ve heard this isn’t a very good set for players or collectors so I’m probably still not going to buy, even at 62 but this is an incredibly low price for a new set.
EDIT: Down to 59.99 shipped on tcgplayer now.
Crimson Invasion sucks. Sure you might make a dollar or two after shipping/fees, but I would personally not get too excited about that price.
I’d rather waste $0 than $62. That’s just me though, hope that helps.
I held off on the $60 dollar boxes for a Black Friday deal because I really feel like there is no money to be made from this set. Truthfully though, I am dying to open some of this set just to check out the artwork and see the pulls for myself. I’ve been so damn stingy with new product lately.
Pulling 3, 4, 5 or even 6 GX cards that are only worth $2-3 each is ridiculous imo. Getting $15-25 worth of ultra rare pulls out of a box that is normally $85-90 just doesn’t work for me anymore, even at $60 for now.
Seems like everyone is in agreement that this set is a hard pass, even at $62.
At what price does this set become an obvious buy even though it’s a poor set? If it actually dropped to 50-55 I’d probably bite personally.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a new booster box fall that low.
$50 with free shipping for me.
It’s CI,the average pulls are 2-4GXs . 5-6 GX out of a CI box is extremely rare. That’s why it sucks.
With this pull ratio in mind - What was the general feeling during the Black & White era of TCG? I know most of those sets only had 2-3 ultra rare pulls per box if you were lucky. This was the one era where I was entirely out of the TCG except for a few packs of Emerging Powers and Dark Explorers.
If you bought at that price and opened you might get something worth grading. Crimson Invasion is a pretty ass set so buyer beware.
All the S&M boxes should be around $60 - $70 because the amount of value from them cards are too low on the secondary market. Adding an extra layer of rarity “Hyper Rare” really hurt the value of regular GX and Full Art GX cards. People equate the regular GX cards as the new holo. Its even worse if you get the cheapest “Hyper Rare” valued card. Plus the overproduction/saturation and less demand for these newer sets. Its just bad news.
To be fair, I think regular GX are about the rarity of holos now. New sets have almost as many different gx cards as holos, and I thought people were pulling 4-5 regular gx, 1-2 full arts and maybe .5 SR/RR per box
While this makes holos harder to pull than before, with the amount of product opened, they are still worth very little, and the GX are like a half step above whereas ultras were previously a “full tier” above holos
Seasonal lul
This works with older product but not newer product imo. Last winter sealed product was selling like CRAZY and couldn’t be kept on the shelves near me at both Target and Walmart, they were sold out until almost February.
Pulled a FA Guzzlord, RR Guzzlord, and SR Water Energy out of the $60 BF box. Lucked out majorly, as that is about as good of a box as you can expect to get…
Your pulls kind of exemplify the problem with new sets, you had amazing luck, pulled good stuff, but those 3 cards are $35 total…
reminds me a bit of opening a GR ETB I got from Gamestop for $12.
I took the calculated risk, knowing the odds were way out of my favor.
I looked at it as LeLe was the one realistic way to earn approx retail on the box
4.5 regular gx per box = 1 per etb, 1/12 to get regular lele
1.5 fa per box = 1/3 per etb, 1/45 to get fa lele
.75 SR per box = 1/6 per etb, 1/144 to get RR lele
1/12 + 1/45 + 1/144 is approx 1/9
Took my chances, got a FA lele, pretty happy about that 
Is there any chance CI will be have a smaller print run, given the poor reception and less-than-cost prices? I’m inclined to think the low prices are just holiday madness, stores are liquidating everything to stay in business for next year.
I opened 4 boxes of CI, and my drop rates were consistent with other S&M generation booster boxes. Usually 1 SR, 2 UR, 2 GX, and 1 FA trainer per box. IIRC I only got 2 FA trainers, both Lusamine.
Even if crimson invasion had a greatly reduced print run by 2017 standards it would still be a considerably sized print run.
It would take years before we saw the set begin to rise.
The chances of sets habing smaller print runs are low maybe even zero. Remember it is distributors selling at the low prices not tpci.
I knew purchase orders from the largest businesses years ago. Today they are childsplay compared to the current quantity order from distributors. It doesn’t matter if the set is good or bad, the amount of product sold is unparalleled.