My point is solely in response to your statement that there is no difference between graded games and graded packs, there absolutely is as you just said yourself now. To be clear, I have graded games myself and I consider them collectible, but they’re something else entirely.
Sorry for the late reply as I don’t see this as mobile-friendly when having to move around boxes. Not sorry for the doom tho.
Yeahnahyeahnahyeahnah sooner or later someone is gonna take advantage of leading peoples minds and turn boxes already cased into making a label with “data” inscribed with them. Biggest issue with doing that with sealed product is authenticity and the fear for concern for it in tcg’s has never been more anxiously required without allowing food for thought until now. It’s just surface level guessing for an inetietable decision should it go that way.
That’s more for modern collectables that for the most part are celebratiorial kitsch for the naive. What is an item that can be a collectable to some, or many but not strictly purely are those for a sole purpose end up having a better chance of being a pure memento.
Preserving I can get to an extent as a work of art but I might be missing something here, hmmm. Not fully disagreeing with the possibilities, more of a disagreeing with the generalising of praticalities limits outside of a context. As minter, newer condition absolutely reconciles with items of pratical collectable significance on top of praticality and display.
Don’t you see the irony here? That you were once not understanding outcomes of grading when it comes to praticality on a system that’s solely based around suggestive opinons to do with encasing aroung properties that outcome the values to be absurd entirely? At least a card, hell even a figure as a statue can serve it’s purpose where as a sealed box is in the same dimension as a sealed box within a box containing irrelevent properties.
I don’t collect graded games but have been collecting sealed/CIB for a long time. I’ve ended up with so many doubles/sealed games that I know I’ll never open at this point, plus graded game prices are so high now, that I have been sending stuff I don’t want or need to WATA. Went with WATA over VGA as imo the label looks more modern, and their website is definitely more modern.
I didn’t pay that much attention to graded game threads on collecting forums, but the impression I got was that VGA was the more respected of the two, and VGA was a harder grade to get, but obviously with PSA taking ownership of WATA, that could change WATA’s rep - not that WATA is necessarily going to take on PSA card grading standards operationally, but the established legitimacy of PSA’s brand should rub off on WATA in the eyes of card collectors who are grading (or buying graded) games for the first time.
Game collecting never used to be about grading at all - it was a really niche thing - scarce print runs and playability drove games to high prices, and prices were never too high compared to graded cards. It is always interesting seeing so much push back from graded TCG collectors when the subject of graded games comes up, since game collectors, I don’t believe, have driven this - it feels to me like card and comic collectors coming in and applying the standards of those hobbies to video games.
I messaged WATA to see if they could grade older Japanese games even though they never came factory sealed, here is the reply I got.
“Yes, we grade it NS if it never had a seal on it, or if the seal has been removed but the box was never opened. Unfortunately, we don’t grade Japanese Game Boy yet. We can grade Super Famicom, but only the cart by itself, not in the box. We don’t have case sizes to encapsulate either of those. We do grade other Japanese games, but not these.”
For any US released games WATA can grade it, but for foreign released games VGA is still the only player in town. Also anything VGA 90+ is equal or greater to a WATA 9.8 (getting a 95 is absurdly hard). However a lot of the “investors” in graded games see the higher number and automatically assume it’s better.
I’m really glad you posted this, because my next submission was going to include a Japanese Pokemon TCG GB, ha. Hope they don’t have any issues with the Japanese GC game I sent in my last sub, those are an odd size, too.
I asked 4-5 months ago about Japanese GameCube games - did you get confirmation that they grade those now?
Absolutely love the artwork on those games and would like to have my encapsulated for display.
I didn’t ask in advance, simply submitted, but I’d seen a WATA-graded Japanese GC game for sale so assumed it wouldn’t be an issue (I forgot that I had when I made the post you quoted). Did WATA tell you they wouldn’t be accepted? I’ll email and try to get clarification if so.
Nightmare. I wish they’d make this stuff clear absolutely anywhere on the website. I’m actually not sure where I saw this graded Japanese game now, so maybe that was my mistake.
At this point, I would hold off completely on trying to submit any foreign language game with WATA until the CU takeover finalizes. Seems to switch day to day and who you talk to about what they’re willing to grade, which doesn’t bode well for an eventual pop report release. Don’t want your graded game ending in some one-off label or category on the eventual pop report.