Chicken? Egg?

[jahbless91]

@btoise

@acebren

You don’t need to get personal bud, we’re just having a conversation here. Cullers doesn’t need you sticking up for him lol, PSA pop reports do provide some insight, but there are many sets wither lower pops than 1st ed base, not because they’re rarer, but because the set has not been in demand for as long, 1st ed base has always been the pinnacle, shadowless popularity is quite recent in comparison, plus shadowless cards haven’t always been distinct in PSAs eyes, we don’t know how many shadowless PSA 10s are out there with an unlimited label

No one is getting personal with you. But calling me bud, when we do not know each other, is making it personal. With your insistence to cullers you are trying to force a narrative that you do not truly know enough about. And that’s okay too, it’s just that you clearly were not around when this all happened. How often do you see shadowless cards in unlimited cases? Very seldom, if ever. I get it, it could be frustrating when someone new comes along with new information that contradicts, or questions, most of what you thought you knew to be true and accurate. Fact is you were sold a narrative in a similar way that audiences for CNN or fox news get sold on positions. Don’t go making things personal with me, sir. You’re not buddies with someone when you show that kind of attitude toward them.

It’s that your tone was condescending.

You literally called him “My friend” before him calling you ‘bud’ …

Back on topic as i would like to add something meaningful to this conversation; eggs existed way before chickens did. At least that answers one of your questions

[btoise]

@acebren

@btoise

No one is getting personal with you. But calling me bud, when we do not know each other, is making it personal. With your insistence to cullers you are trying to force a narrative that you do not truly know enough about. And that’s okay too, it’s just that you clearly were not around when this all happened. How often do you see shadowless cards in unlimited cases? Very seldom, if ever. I get it, it could be frustrating when someone new comes along with new information that contradicts, or questions, most of what you thought you knew to be true and accurate. Fact is you were sold a narrative in a similar way that audiences for CNN or fox news get sold on positions. Don’t go making things personal with me, sir. You’re not buddies with someone when you show that kind of attitude toward them.

It’s that your tone was condescending.

You’ve misunderstood my tone then, who are you alleging I was condescending towards? I’m sharing my opinion which is allowed, I’m not forcing it on anyone. Every shadowless card graded before they got the shadowless distinction are in unlimited cases, unless they have been sent in to be recased. Calm down a little bit bud

Haha, okay then. This could be a very long, and tiring hole we could go down here. We can move past it for sake of good conversation. It’s been a fun thread. Should continue to get views and maybe even more involvement. We’re good, man.

[btoise]

@jahbless91

@btoise

No one is getting personal with you. But calling me bud, when we do not know each other, is making it personal. With your insistence to cullers you are trying to force a narrative that you do not truly know enough about. And that’s okay too, it’s just that you clearly were not around when this all happened. How often do you see shadowless cards in unlimited cases? Very seldom, if ever. I get it, it could be frustrating when someone new comes along with new information that contradicts, or questions, most of what you thought you knew to be true and accurate. Fact is you were sold a narrative in a similar way that audiences for CNN or fox news get sold on positions. Don’t go making things personal with me, sir. You’re not buddies with someone when you show that kind of attitude toward them.

It’s that your tone was condescending.

You literally called him “My friend” before him calling you ‘bud’ …

Back on topic as i would like to add something meaningful to this conversation; eggs existed way before chickens did. At least that answers one of your questions

Were you that egg then? Otherwise, how could you possibly know?

[jahbless91]

@btoise

@jahbless91

You literally called him “My friend” before him calling you ‘bud’ …

Back on topic as i would like to add something meaningful to this conversation; eggs existed way before chickens did. At least that answers one of your questions

Were you that egg then? Otherwise, how could you possibly know?

Not an egg, but biology teacher

[btoise]

@jahbless91

@btoise

Were you that egg then? Otherwise, how could you possibly know?

Not an egg, but biology teacher

Wait, hold on here. So you’re claiming that the biology teacher came before the egg?? That sounds like quite a stretch.

[budget]

efour forum users are some of the most patient people in the world.

[shizzlemetimbers]

@budget

efour forum users are some of the most patient people in the world.

Woah easy there bud

[merciersj]

@budget

efour forum users are some of the most patient people in the world.

I can debunk this one right now as I have 0 patience. Ever.

[Quuador]

@btoise

@jahbless91

You literally called him “My friend” before him calling you ‘bud’ …

Back on topic as i would like to add something meaningful to this conversation; eggs existed way before chickens did. At least that answers one of your questions

Were you that egg then? Otherwise, how could you possibly know?

Dinosaurs and reptiles laid eggs, way before there were any chickens…

(What came first; the chicken or the ***chicken-***egg? Now that’s a completely different question, but not the one you were asking.)

Greetz,
Quuador

[pfm]

The biggest irony in this whole thread is that shadowless was only available on day 1 because 1st ed was so popular that it immediately sold out.

[crow]

@Quuador

@btoise

Were you that egg then? Otherwise, how could you possibly know?

Dinosaurs and reptiles laid eggs, way before there were any chickens..

(What came first; the chicken or the ***chicken-***egg? Now that’s a completely different question, but not the one you were asking.)

Greetz,
Quuador

That depends on what you consider a chicken egg. Is a chicken egg an egg laid by a chicken? Or an egg that contains a chicken embryo? If the former, the chicken came first. If the latter, the egg came first, laid by a non-chicken. Either way, that’s an answerable question, no?

[btoise]

@pfm

The biggest irony in this whole thread is that shadowless was only available on day 1 because 1st ed was so popular that it immediately sold out.

They were the same print. Stamps were then added to shadowless sheets. Design changed before these cards were streeted for purchase.

[acebren]

@btoise

@pfm

The biggest irony in this whole thread is that shadowless was only available on day 1 because 1st ed was so popular that it immediately sold out.

They were the same print. Stamps were then added to shadowless sheets. Design changed before these cards were streeted for purchase.

We understand that the point he’s making is the only reason shadowless was for sale along side 1st edition on day 1 is because the 1st boxes sold so fast!, if demand was not so high we wouldn’t have seen shadowless unlimited until later, your claim to fame that shadowless was for sale along side 1st ed is only possible because the 1st ed boxes ran out so fast

[shizzlemetimbers]

After a careful look at my stock I am reevaluating my position and am 100% behind team @btoise let’s drive shadowless prices awareness to the highest point!

[jakew1992]

@shizzlemetimbers

After a careful look at my stock I am reevaluating my position and am 100% behind team @btoise let’s drive shadowless prices awareness to the highest point!

If those were weedles I’d be more impressed

[Quuador]

@crow

@Quuador

Dinosaurs and reptiles laid eggs, way before there were any chickens..

(What came first; the chicken or the ***chicken-***egg? Now that’s a completely different question, but not the one you were asking.)

Greetz,
Quuador

That depends on what you consider a chicken egg. Is a chicken egg an egg laid by a chicken? Or an egg that contains a chicken embryo? If the former, the chicken came first. If the latter, the egg came first, laid by a non-chicken. Either way, that’s an answerable question, no?

Correct, that’s indeed how it usually goes, and it’s indeed unanswerable. But an egg in general definitely came before the chicken, as I mentioned before.

Anyway, sorry for going so off-topic about the . I think the original question of the thread had already been answered, though: 1st edition was printed before Shadowless in terms of print run. But because Shadowless was already sold out during pre-sales, 1st and Shadowless were both released and sold on day 1 of the Pokémon TCG release in the US. /thread

Greetz,
Quuador

[KingPokemon]

@Quuador

@crow

That depends on what you consider a chicken egg. Is a chicken egg an egg laid by a chicken? Or an egg that contains a chicken embryo? If the former, the chicken came first. If the latter, the egg came first, laid by a non-chicken. Either way, that’s an answerable question, no?

Correct, that’s indeed how it usually goes, and it’s indeed unanswerable. But an egg in general definitely came before the chicken, as I mentioned before.

Anyway, sorry for going so off-topic about the . I think the original question of the thread had already been answered, though: 1st edition was printed before Shadowless in terms of print run. But because Shadowless was already sold out during pre-sales, 1st and Shadowless were both released and sold on day 1 of the Pokémon TCG release in the US. /thread

Greetz,
Quuador

Under no terms was 1st Ed “printed” first lol.

[kpod]

This just seems like a thread to create a bunch of false hype about shadowless cards I think people have already agreed that they were distributed at the same time, but regardless of all that the 1st edition stamp always has and always will have more demand.

[btoise]

Below is a raw, shadowless clefairy that recently sold at auction for more than $1,000 dollars. Looks like a potential 10 candidate. There are only 23 PSA graded 10 clefairys found on the census. It’s a nice looking card. I wish there were more of them out there that look like that.
I really appreciate the symmetry and general aesthetic that these cards display without the addition of being viciously stamped on, thereby marring them forever.

[woolsluk]

You should know that the seller of that card was getting ridiculously high prices for all the cards they were selling and I’m pretty sure that they were shill bidding. Why would you pay this much for a potential 10 when a 9 of the same card can be picked up for only £120 right now on Ebay?