CGC Changed Their Grading Scale & Label

Yep, I asked them about a card I had that was 8.5, 8.5, 9.5, 9.5 just to see what they said and they said I’m trapped at 8.5 lol

Might be worth cracking. If it’s OG label, it’s very likely to upgrade since they graded centering extremely extremely harsh back then

That’s gonna be a nasty 10 lol


10 edges on fossil is worth a shot to me. But they are new labels

Always a shot they grade easier on the corners or surface the second time.

Could also try wiping it down with a cotton pad in case the surface score is more than just the holo.

The price changes of 9.5s from the announcement show how conditional rarity can be a dangerous trap.

Plus, this industry already has its own two grade scale for grading; “Beauty goods” and “consider it for play”.

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Yikes, that hurts.
That PSA 10 price seems high though, with many Buy it Now offers for less if that helps :).

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Won by a 0 feedback bidder and about $600 higher than current BINs so high chance of shill nonsense. Regardless, doesn’t excuse the bad CGC sale, I’m sorry to see that.

Edit: just saw average sales less than a month ago were $700-$1000 for psa 10 so I actually think your sale makes sense especially since it’s legit unlike most of these psa sales being won by shills

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It’s pretty funny – my sets went up in value by like 50% overnight lol. Which is exactly why I switched from PSA 10s to CGC 9.5s in the first place. PSA 10 prices were clearly irrational, and CGC 9.5 prices (at least back when CGC was stricter) felt much more reasonable. Now that CGC has switched to the PSA scale, it seems like CGC 10 (aka old 9.5) prices will now also be irrational. Kind of a shame, tbh. I liked being able to buy gem mint cards at a significant discount lol.

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This was my main motive for all of the 9.5s I bought as well. Like, it made no sense to me that a CGC 9.5 would sometimes be 1/10 the price of a PSA 10 of the same card (especially a regular set card).

I’ve shared this example before, but take Base 2 Charizard for example. Arguably one of the hardest WOTC holos to grade as it’s basically impossible to find without holo flaws or some type of whitening. Here we can see the PSA 10 clearly has holo flaws which would probably top out at 9.5 surface at CGC, maybe even a 9 surface. I even saw another one that got a 10 with worse corners than my CGC 9.5.


My CGC 9.5 (old cert, tough grading?)


So at some point, one has to be honest and draw the line on this stuff when collecting. Why pay 10-15x premium on this card if it has more noticeable flaws than a 9.5? I don’t believe PSA is necessarily ‘wrong’, but at the same time there was just no reason for the CGC 9.5 to be so cheap to me when strictly looking at the condition of the card and not just the label. 98% of my collection is PSA, but at times I couldn’t justify a PSA 10 on some cards I’ve collected.

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This. Psa is too expensive and cgc was too cheap for similar quality cards and the market is correcting this obvious arbitrage.

That’s rough. Even if the psa one was shilled Ive sold a couple psa 10 for 2k each, which is still double that cgc 10. That should be an indicator the new 10 is not going to magically be equal overnight. Honestly the 9.5 to 10 speculation just feels like nft get rich quick vibes.

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Maybe I’m wrong in thinking this but this just feels like validation for BGS decision to not change their scale after announcing they were

CGC is now giving 9.5s with zero 10 sub grades a new label with a 10 on it and doing away completely with sub grades

To me this just cements BGS as the top choice if you’re looking for cards that are graded harshly and accurately reflect the grade given. I’ve seen too much variation in PSA 10s. There’s no reason for PSA to be going for more than BGS and yet you can find some amazing deals on BGS 10s and 9.5s and they’re almost always going to be cleaner cards…

I’m all for bgs but I really have to say that has not been my experiance at all with bgs. I have graded around 400 Pokemon cards with bgs which is probably more than most and I wouldn’t go so far as to say they are usually stronger than CGC 9.5s for bgs 9.5s. I have graded several bgs 9.5s with dents and noticable issues. I have not graded much at CGC but I have seen a lot of CGC and never thought that their 9.5 deserved worse than a 9.

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Bgs 9.5 gem mint were going to be made into 9.5 mint + because even they knew their cards were weaker than the rest on average. They will still be changing their grading they have zero choice at this point.

Am I in the twilight zone or have some of you just never submitted modern cards to PSA lol

I don’t. My brother does all the time. It’s a complete load of nonsense with modern. 9s are 10s and 10s are 9s zero consistency just all made up.

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You don’t expect the value of CGC 10’s going up at all in the long run?
Nowdays adding value is mostly what a grade is supposed to do so you can’t really blame CGC for trying right?

The overall look of PSA slabs have been pretty consistent though. At first glance, they all read, “this is a PSA slab”. CSG/CGC have made pretty major changes.

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Nice article. So 10 different cases in around 30 years that’s actually quite a lot.