Can Japanese Unlimited sell for more than 1st Ed?

Have a PSA Flareon from split Earth coming. Just wondering if it is more valuable than a 1st ED since theres less unlimited ones?

I mean it CAN sell for more. If you find a person who collects flareon, maybe they would be willing to pay extra for it since they could be having a difficult time finding it.

In general though, most people will value the stamp more than the rarity of the unstamped. The exception is something like e1, where the unlimited is stupid rare.

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Don’t forget WCP and some of the L series!

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Yep, these three exactly. :blush:

E1 unlimited is of these mentioned the rarest. These were only given at certain events. If I would come across an unlimited edition E1 Pikachu I would pay 300 USD easily if I have to (preferably I hope the seller doesn’t know what they have and I can pay < 10 USD). 1st edition version of this card I already have four times among my duplicated stack…

As for L2 Reviving Legends (Undaunted), L3 Clash at the Summit (Triumphant), and World Championship Pack (EX Power Keepers), those were very short printed in unlimited edition. The WCP Seviper and Battle Frontier in unlimited edition are the only cards I’m still missing to complete my Seviper collection.

The Split Earth (Skyridge) mentioned by @randox , as well as The Town on No Map (Aquapolis) are also pretty hard to find in unlimited edition however. Took me little over two years before I came across my first Split Earth Pikachu in unlimited edition, and I’ve only seen it three times in total. I also know a Pikachu collector who only focuses on English and Japanese who is still missing that one despite looking for it for quite a while as well.

But, although unlimited editions are shorter printed and rarer in almost all Japanese sets, most people still prefer 1st editions, or don’t really care, unless they’re completionists going after every variation like me. So unless someone is looking for the unlimited edition Flareon specifically, I don’t think it will be worth any more nor less than the 1st edition one, tbh.

Greetz,
Quuador

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And BW5 Rayquaza EX…I think @pottsinator is still looking for that one in UED!

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Yes :slightly_frowning_face: still no luck

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Like many of the other mad lad single Pokemon collectors here I would offer 100x the going rate for the unlimited version L1 Gyarados (if it exists)

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Same for the L1 and L1 Reverse Holo Pikachus for me, but I kinda doubt L1 exists in unlimited at all to be completely honest. I’ve never seen even a single picture of a card from the L1 set in unlimited edition.

Also, I once bought a bulk of ~7,000 Japanese non-Holos, which included ~600 cards from L1, and ~200 cards from L2 and L3 combined. From those L2/L3, little below 20 of them were in unlimited edition, from all L1 however, every single one was 1st edition…

Although I still mention them in my WTB list, along with quite a few other cards I’m pretty sure don’t exist at all, like the Oshawott HSZ Deck in Japanese UED; German BW54 Promo; French POP5; Italian DP16 Promo; etc. They aren’t in my checklist anymore, since at this point I’m 95% sure they simply don’t exist.

But, if I somehow ever come across an unlimited edition L1 Gyarados, you’d be the first to know. :wink:

As for the BW5 mentioned by @fourthstartcg and @pottsinator , BW and XY era unlimited edition Japanese cards are way harder to find, and again - shorter printed. Tbh, I can’t even think of a set where 1st edition is less rare to find than unlimited edition for Japanese sets (excluding the Base Set No Rarity of course)… I know XY era sets were printed in unlimited edition for a very brief period of time two years after the 1st edition print runs were released. Not sure about BW, though. For some BW sets unlimited editions are somewhat reasonable to find, for others however…

Japanese unlimited editions in general are just the bane of existence for us completionists it seems, haha. :grin: Maybe it’s a good thing they stopped printing 1st editions since the Sun & Moon. :wink:

Greetz,
Quuador

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Just to confirm, French POP 5 definitely does not exist. POP 1 to POP 4 do exist in french (and are extremely hard to come by in good conditions, except for POP 4 where boosters have resurfaced in the past 2-3 years), but not anything more recent (though some POP 9 were printed as promotional cards, the Pikachu for instance).
This (POP 5) and not having had Skyridge printed in French is still a trauma to most French collectors!

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Thanks for confirming! In that case I’ll remove it from my list permanently. :blush:

Two other French cards I’m doubting might exist are the DP16 promo Pikachu without Snowflake stamp and the BW54 promo. I’m pretty sure neither does exist in French, but maybe you know more about these two? The DP16 promo does exist with and without Snowflake stamp in English and German. But in French only with Snowflake. And in Italian not at all.

PS: Sorry for going completely off-topic here, but I think the original answer regarding the unlimited edition Earth Split cards has been mostly answered. :slightly_smiling_face:

Greetz,
Quuador

I do not remember seeing the Pikachu DP16 without snowflake stamp indeed, but can’t confirm that 100% as I never chased that card.
The BW 54 indeed didn’t get printed in French (95% sure). If in doubt, and if your French is correct, here is a link: French promo list
If you need help translating, don’t hesitate to get in touch!

Indeed a bit off-topic, sorry about that!

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Thank you, that list is very useful! :blush: It seems I indeed have French complete for Pikachu in that case. :grin: I checked all Pikachus in the list, and I’ve got all of them.

Greetz,
Quuador

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I am almost 100% certain unlimited L1 cards do not exist aside from the legend cards. The legends were given out as a runner up prize in the /L-P promo lottery campaigns but other than those the only evidence is stock images of packs lacking the 1st edition stamp.

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PSA have 2 separate entries for unlimited L1 Pichu cards - a PSA 8 and a PSA 10 - which is really irritating as I’m also almost 100% certain these do not exist. I’m hoping I see them up for sale eventually so I can confirm that it’s just a PSA mistake.

It’s the only card from both the HeartGold and SoulSilver sets they have in unlimited version which isn’t the legend cards: www.psacard.com/pop/tcg-cards/2009/pokemon-japanese-soulsilver-collection/101511

It really bothers me that 2 have been listed this way, as that just fuels the fire in me which wants to believe they exist.

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Whilst I wasn’t aware of anything being in the pop report other than the legends I’m gonna have to stand by my statement and agree with you that they are likely mislabeled cards. I have multiple Japanese cards where psa has put the wrong edition on the label so it definitely happens.

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I have complete faith in PSA’s ability to accurately label Pichu cards…

:grin:

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