BGS over PSA?

[austonmatthews]

@smpratte

@austonmatthews

The BGS 10 vs PSA 10 debate is so different in Pokemon than in sports, its almost mind-boggling to me

Very fascinating seeing the difference between two mediums

In sports its virtually not a debate, BGS 10 is worth 1.5 times to 3 times more than a PSA 10 … a black label is worth 10x -20x to a PSA 10 … it’s not even a question that arises

Will be interesting to see how much marketshare BGS gets moving forward

Absolutely! I actually have a stack of PSA 10 Jagr rookies I need to send to beckett.

IMO the biggest differential is experience. Beckett simply does not have the experience with Pokemon.

lol good old OPC premier Jagr

[chappo]

@budget

@crackedkakuna

Hmmm. I sent out my 1st Edition Charizard (German) through a store I go to regularly. I remember him saying he was going to send it to BGS, pretty sure he said he sent it to BGS twice after that (I go weekly). Today I go in and he said he actually sent it to PSA. Maybe it’s a blessing is disguise?

Do German BGS 9.5-10 cards still have that same jump over PSA 10s? Or is this only for English cards?

If it’s black label, probably.

Foreign (not japanese) cards and boxes are becoming less desirable. It’s a niche that hasn’t really grown.

I wouldn’t sleep on german cards… the 1st Edition Base set boxes saw a price hike of 200-300% in the last 3 Months and 300-400% in the last year.
I’m pretty sure that the german market is one of the healthiest now, it covers roughly 100 mio native speakers and all are wealthy countries.

[crackedkakuna]

@chappo

@budget

If it’s black label, probably.

Foreign (not japanese) cards and boxes are becoming less desirable. It’s a niche that hasn’t really grown.

I wouldn’t sleep on german cards… the 1st Edition Base set boxes saw a price hike of 200-300% in the last 3 Months and 300-400% in the last year.
I’m pretty sure that the german market is one of the healthiest now, it covers roughly 100 mio native speakers and all are wealthy countries.

I saw someone on here willing to purchase at $1600 for a PSA 10, which is more than I thought it could potentially be worth. Nowhere near an English card, but I’m getting some offers from German people on Discord lol. I’m going to hold onto it for a long time either way, it’s one of the Charizard’s I grew up with

[teamrocketop]

So I have been doing it all wrong, going through PSA? :X

[chappo]

So grading PSA is the way to go and if you hit multiple 10’s, you can send them to Beckett to regrade them with their scale.
But will Beckett determinate the grade just by inspecting the card inside the case? is that enough for them for the definitive grade?

[cullers]

@chappo

So grading PSA is the way to go and if you hit multiple 10’s, you can send them to Beckett to regrade them with their scale.
But will Beckett determinate the grade just by inspecting the card inside the case? is that enough for them for the definitive grade?

If you’re really adamant about adding BGS to your grading process it’s far better to take your best examples and send them in with a min qualifier of 10, and when they come back to you ungraded send them to PSA. They’re harsher on cards inside a case as they don’t want to break the case if it’s not going to qualify.

[chappo]

@cullers

@chappo

So grading PSA is the way to go and if you hit multiple 10’s, you can send them to Beckett to regrade them with their scale.
But will Beckett determinate the grade just by inspecting the card inside the case? is that enough for them for the definitive grade?

If you’re really adamant about adding BGS to your grading process it’s far better to take your best examples and send them in with a min qualifier of 10, and when they come back to you ungraded send them to PSA. They’re harsher on cards inside a case as they don’t want to break the case if it’s not going to qualify.

perfect solution for me, thanks!

[gottaketchumall]

What @cullers said above is something I agree with strongly. It would have been crazy for @garyis2000 to do it, but I am fairly certain he would have had better odds crossing his psa 10 base 1st holos to BGS 10 if he would have cracked them out. Again it is quite unrealistic to do though. For anyone unfamiliar with the story he once sent dozens of PSA 10 base 1st holos to BGS for crossover with a BGS 10 min grade. As far as I recall none of them crossed.

Maybe Gary could come back to verify that and give us the actual numbers. I’d also be interested to hear your thoughts Gary on if you’d have had a better shot at crossing if the cards were cracked raw? I mean there is not doubt the case obscures things and I’ve never fully understood encased crossovers at all.