Bad Trades With A Close Friend: Need Advice..

[poken00b88]

@chopper

Consider trading cards for cash, instead of trading for raw cards. That would prevent the burn when you realize you traded a valuable card for a less-valuable card.

Also, stop worrying about the grades you might receive. I know we all have some numbers bias towards 10s. Grade your cards to preserve them, not because you think grading will increase value. We’re getting to the point where 1st edition base holos are gradeable in any condition.

No, it would be the same scenario… He would still be upset getting $500 for that Blastoise or getting NM/PSA 7-8 $ on these cards that earned a PSA 10.

I think trading is great. Its one aspect I miss from back in the day. There’s just not a lot of collectors in my area and its tough finding a perfect trade for both parties. I just would not trade raw valuable cards like OP did, where a coue grades up is $1000+ difference.

[chopper]

@poken00b88

@chopper

Consider trading cards for cash, instead of trading for raw cards. That would prevent the burn when you realize you traded a valuable card for a less-valuable card.

Also, stop worrying about the grades you might receive. I know we all have some numbers bias towards 10s. Grade your cards to preserve them, not because you think grading will increase value. We’re getting to the point where 1st edition base holos are gradeable in any condition.

No, it would be the same scenario… He would still be upset getting $500 for that Blastoise or getting NM/PSA 7-8 $ on these cards that earned a PSA 10.

I think trading is great. Its one aspect I miss from back in the day. There’s just not a lot of collectors in my area and its tough finding a perfect trade for both parties. I just would not trade raw valuable cards like OP did, where a coue grades up is $1000+ difference.

Grade first, then sell or trade. Despite what I said about value, grading = appraisal for trading cards.

[null_user]

Pokemon cards have a lot of value, therefore you can say it’s business. You are taking your friend’s business decisions personally.

He trades cards that he is comfortable trading and drives a hard bargain or just doesn’t want to part with his higher end stuff. That sounds pretty reasonable.

At the time of trading, both parties were happy with the terms and conditions of the trade. That is all that matters. What happens in the future is irrelevant.

I recently sold a couple hundred dollars worth of WWE stock a month before it doubled in price. That doesn’t mean I can call Vince McMahon and ask for take-backsies just because I watch and support his product.

[kiwiblue]

@poken00b88

In many cases friendships and business dont really go well together. I’ve been on both sides of these types of situation. Just take it as a lesson learned. Please do let your friend know how you feel and grade every card that has any significant value in the future.

Im just curious how you thought the Blastoise would grade so low…?

The top right hand corner has a minor bend… how it got a 9 is beyond me. It also had several white marks on the back and a dent in the holographic. PSA can be a little triggering at times.

Lesson learned.

[kiwiblue]

@justinator

@kiwiblue

I hear what you are saying but I am wondering what will it achieve explaining this. As I am not prepared to ever trade with this person again so that’s why I was wondering if it was worth actually bringing up

I think it really depends on the level of friendship you have with this person outside the hobby, and how this interaction plays into your interactions outside of the trades. If there is a potential for it to negatively affect your interactions then it would probably be best to get it into the air. Talk it out - if the friendship is worth keeping, then it will sort out.

If you don’t feel there is enough of a friendship there outside of the hobby or it isn’t going to be affected by the scenario, then I wouldn’t worry about pursuing it, personally.

I feel like this isnt going to affect anything, in my head i’ve already let it go and i’m happy to move on with life and learn my lesson the hard way. I’m not treating him any differently and I am stronger now because of this.

[KingPokemon]

@kiwiblue

@justinator

I think it really depends on the level of friendship you have with this person outside the hobby, and how this interaction plays into your interactions outside of the trades. If there is a potential for it to negatively affect your interactions then it would probably be best to get it into the air. Talk it out - if the friendship is worth keeping, then it will sort out.

If you don’t feel there is enough of a friendship there outside of the hobby or it isn’t going to be affected by the scenario, then I wouldn’t worry about pursuing it, personally.

I feel like this isnt going to affect anything, in my head i’ve already let it go and i’m happy to move on with life and learn my lesson the hard way. I’m not treating him any differently and I am stronger now because of this.

Well said…

[poken00b88]

@kiwiblue

@poken00b88

In many cases friendships and business dont really go well together. I’ve been on both sides of these types of situation. Just take it as a lesson learned. Please do let your friend know how you feel and grade every card that has any significant value in the future.

Im just curious how you thought the Blastoise would grade so low…?

The top right hand corner has a minor bend… how it got a 9 is beyond me. It also had several white marks on the back and a dent in the holographic. PSA can be a little triggering at times.

Lesson learned.

So it was a misgrade then… The trade was good, PSA just did a mistake. I would be surprised if your friend ever earns top dollar for the card.

These things happen from time to time… I have some 8s that look better than some 10s I see on ebay. Lol

[zacheggers]

Just seeing this now. Everything I want to say, has already been said. This is a good lesson to learn from though. I’ve done a few bad trades myself that I’ve regretted later, but those mistakes have helped me to become the collector I am today! I am sure you won’t let it happen again! Also, depending how close this friend is to you, always remember a REAL friendship is worth more than any piece of cardboard (Except a PSA 10 1st edition base set Charizard lol.). Keep your head up, and think of this bad trade as a investment into your wisdom as a collector.

[chrispy]

You said you got a $500 card out of him right? In all seriousness though, you’re gonna be bitter and drop a friend over a difference of like 400 bucks ??

[kiwiblue]

@chrispy

You said you got a $500 card out of him right? In all seriousness though, you’re gonna be bitter and drop a friend over a difference of like 400 bucks ??

Im not going to drop the friendship no, and im not bitter either. I said i’ve moved on. I suggest you read the thread before making smart ass comments.

[chrispy]

@kiwiblue

@chrispy

You said you got a $500 card out of him right? In all seriousness though, you’re gonna be bitter and drop a friend over a difference of like 400 bucks ??

Im not going to drop the friendship no, and im not bitter either. I said i’ve moved on. I suggest you read the thread before making smart ass comments.

I read it front to back. You needed a consoling session because your friend got a grade you didnt think your card would get that made the trade around $400-500 better for him than for you. Then you got bitter that he wouldn’t trade it back and depressed thinking that he’s “using you” because he makes smarter trades than you do. Finally you said you won’t be trading with him any more. All because trades YOU PROPOSE lead to regret down the road. Sad times, 2018.

[kiwiblue]

@chrispy

@kiwiblue

Im not going to drop the friendship no, and im not bitter either. I said i’ve moved on. I suggest you read the thread before making smart ass comments.

I read it front to back. You needed a consoling session because your friend got a grade you didnt think your card would get that made the trade around $400-500 better for him than for you. Then you got bitter that he wouldn’t trade it back and depressed thinking that he’s “using you” because he makes smarter trades than you do. Finally you said you won’t be trading with him any more. All because trades YOU PROPOSE lead to regret down the road. Sad times, 2018.

Haha, I cant actually be bothered fighting over the internet with you. Have a lovely day