So, more moral collecting questions. This is all hypothetical, nothing like this happened in real life. I suppose I could take that horror movie line and say this is loosely “influenced by real life events.”
I make a trade with someone several months ago. I trade away a PSA 9 card and receive a PSA 9 card in return. After looking at the card I’ve received, I think it worthy of a 10 and regrade it. The card then receives a 10 upon regrading. The difference in value between the PSA 9 and PSA 10 versions of the card I regraded is significant, in the hundreds of dollars range.
The person who I traded with then contacts me, and says that they either want to return the trade (I send back the newly-regraded PSA 10 and they send me back my PSA 9) or they want something else in the trade to balance out the value of the new PSA 10. For example, let’s say the PSA 9s were equivalent in value at $100. Now the 10 is worth $350, so they want $250 in additional trade value. Their reasoning is that they technically traded me a PSA 10, and PSA got the grade wrong the first time they sent it in.
My response would be that they traded away the card, it is now mine, and they should have been aware of its condition and what grade it deserved. They would be profiting off of my work and knowledge of PSA grades and that the card deserved a 10. By trading it away, they lose all claims on what happens to it in the future.
Even if I am not obligated to do anything, what is the moral response to this?
You are not obligated to compensate them for the increased value of the card.
When you traded the card with them it was a PSA 9, they have had no involvement in the card gaining a PSA 10.
It is exactly the same situation as someone requesting money from you when they sell you a raw card, you grade it, it gets a 10 and then they ask you for more money. That sort of request is absurd, and so is the one you explained.
The contract was over once you both received the cards and no issues were observed.
Them wanting you to trade back is ludicrous.
For instance, if I traded you my 1st Ed Machamp for a Kangaskhan nonholo.
You cut the machamp up and put it a frame, and label it as art. The value increases.
What you do with the card is up to you. Don’t trade back once the value “increases”.
I dunno, I find you are in the righ and don’t owe him anything.
If you think about paying money for a PSA 9 card as a trade of money for a card the principle is identical. The only reason money exists is because a goods/service trade cannot always be considered precise enough to satisfy the individuals involved. No one would ever expect you to pay more in the situation where you purchased a PSA 9 and then regraded it so no one can rightfully expect you to pay more in this situation either.
There is risk/chance/luck contained in any trade or purchase. Any card or box could change significantly in value for a wide variety of reasons. Everyone knows this when they make a trade, whether they consciously factor it in or not.
Thanks for all the help guys! Again this was purely hypothetical. I did make a trade for a PSA 9 card that did get regraded a 10, but the person who I traded with hasn’t contacted me asking for anything at all. I didn’t think it would be too far-fetched for them to contact me wanting something additional, plus I thought it would be an interesting question.
It was a “fair” trade at the time of the trade. Even if the Mewtwo Gold Star came back a PSA-10 after getting re-graded there is nothing that the original owner can do about it. So, just ignore them. You did nothing wrong.
That’s like saying I bought a raw English Charizard Ex FA from Ebay. I then send it to PSA and it grades a 10. In this scenario, let’s say the person who sold me the card was someone who watches me on Youtube. They then contact me trying to get the card back. Anyone else see any problems here?
I wish everybody was more like you. Unfortunately, I get emails daily asking for extra and more closeup pictures of 10s for them to peruse. I’ve even had 10s returned and partial refunds asked for cause they got what they described as a weak 10.
I even had a California resident recently drive up here to compare the 10s I sent him to others I had so he could exchange some lol.
This is a relatively new phenomenon. Now that everybody grades, and there’s multiples of every card out there, people are being more inquisitive and pickier within a grade.
Again this was purely hypothetical. I did make a trade for a PSA 9 card that did get regraded a 10, but the person who I traded with hasn’t contacted me asking for anything at all. I didn’t think it would be too far-fetched for them to contact me wanting something additional, plus I thought it would be an interesting question.
