When I see a signed slab, I just see a fear of commitment. There is a slab market. There is a signed card market. You cannot mash the two into a hideous child and get the positive results of either, let alone both.
If you cannot stomach getting an expensive card signed, then get a cheaper card signed.
If the card is already graded I would sign the slab especially for cards that are high value or GEM MINT 10ās already
Any other circumstance I would prefer the card to be signed
Low value on the card high value on the case. I voted on the case just because thatās what Iād do if I ever went to a signing. If I ever wait in one of those lines it would be a higher value collection piece I would get signed for me, not for eBay.
Since the auto itself can create high value in certain instances I guess it makes more sense to have them sign the card and go for that āauto 10ā designation for many people (lol dolphin meme).
I wonder if anyone has had an artist sign a high value card that came back non authentic? I know it happens on occasion in sports because signers are human who can make mistakes signing as well as graders who can make mistakes authenticating.
Due to almost every card I would want signed already being in a psa case then I would get it on the case. Iām not really a fan of autos and would really never consider buying one but would love to have my gs collection signed by Fukuda. For all those that say on the card, would you have a personalised sig instead of a resealable one on the same card? I doubt it!
This is the rational market focused way of looking at it and it is completely reasonable and logical.
For the exact reasons that you stated though I see getting the case signed more āpureā in some ways. Very similar to a personalized auto in many ways which funny enough most people hate, but I would enjoy if I ever get one done. If I was the signer I would feel the same way. Like hey, this guy really wants my signature for himself, he canāt authenticate and flip it on eBay this way and the card isnāt irreversibly marked in the process. Keeping the art clean and ink free while having the artist make their mark on the case.
I just dig it.
Iād be interested to see the same poll, but instead of what you would get signed, what would you buy already signed if you were in the market for a signature.
I think we all know, even Arita, that non personalized, signed on the card, and authenticated is what the market prefers.
Most people answering on the case are likely not auto buyers, myself included and so are not in the market whatsoever for signed cards. If they have any they likely got them themselves or had someone get it for them to add to their permanent collection.
Most people answering on the card either have that as a preference and/or are in autos for their market value where authentication is required which is fine too.
That is what I assume, but Iād like to see it hashed out on the poll. I was VERY surprised to see such a high percentage on the case. And I think it would be interesting to see that people would get their card signed on the case instead of the card even if they know the market isnāt interested in that product. Thatās a pretty unique occurrence in the hobby where interests tend to closely align with market patterns.
Card is the market standard; I was surprised by the case vote as well. I wonder how many people who voted case currently participate in the market as the demand isnāt parallel.
Overall the signed case has much more risk. Obviously its exposed to the elements. Itās also much easier to fake. Any Signer69er can write on a case. Where an encapsulated card is protected. Case signings arenāt really a thing in other hobbies, so it will be interesting to see how it evolves.
Time to grade the case in a jumbo holder. Might as well get the second case signed too.
If Iām getting my own cards signed, I prefer on the card. Iām happy to have expensive cards signed as well, but one of my main interests in the hobby is autograph collecting, so having an expensive card signed enhances its personal value to me.
I liked the comment made earlier about having cards signed on the case seems like a fear of commitment. Thereās nothing wrong with it, but thereās a whole lot of personal preference that goes into these autographs and it seems that most people in the market for autographs prefer them on the card.
Might as well keep slabbing it for the extra protection until the auto is barely visible
Yeah. This is true with me. I have a few but I certainly donāt collect them. I have to ask myself that if a PSA or BGS 10 1st Base Charizard became available with the sig on the card, would I pay the full market of an unsigned one? Honestly I would not. I might pay half.
Just throwing this out there, but a case signing is easier to fake. Iām sure a capable chemist *cough cough* could figure out a good solvent that would be able to remove the ink from the case, without dissolving the plastic of the case, and thus not damaging the case.
In other words in theory, you -could- forge the signature onto a case, and if you mess it up? Well, just wipe it off and keep trying till you get it perfect, and as they say āpractice -eventually- does make perfectā.
In the other case, trying this out on a card would be nearly impossible without leaving obvious signs of damage/ removing the ink of the card itself soo, signing on the card is the most secure way of preventing forgeries, in my opinion.
The card only has to be fake signed once. Already thereās tons of fakes out there and some are getting awfully good.
Like they say with ācollect the card, not the caseā I say collect the card, not the signature.
Ah I donāt disagree, if you can get it done in one go then youāre good to go and forge it straight onto the card. My thinking is that more people can have a go at forging a signature on the case, even if theyāre likely to screw it up on their 1 st, 2nd, 3rd ā¦to the xāth time.
My personal stance is I donāt collect signatures, or trust signatures. In those instances Iām a āIāll believe it if I see itā kinda person, which is why the only signatures I have are the ones I got recently done in London by Arita in person.
As we know, even PSA slips up with authenticating signatures sometimes , and people that are good with a pen can be pretty good at these sorts of things.
I collect a lot of autograph cards and I have a few signed cases as well but at the end of the day the authenticated and or graded autograph just feels and looks better to me personally. I think there are some situations where getting the case signed might be cool but most of the time I prefer on the card or no signature at all.
If you wanted your potential PSA 10 1st Ed Base Charizard signed:
Would you hand it to Arita and have him sign it or wait till you had it graded?
Different strokes for different blokes.
I personally dislike the look of cases that are signed and much prefer seeing cards signed.
I think weāre all agreed that an auto looks better on a card. The question is, all cards?
Let me ask you too:
If you wanted your potential PSA 10 1st Ed Base Charizard signed:
Would you hand it to Arita and have him sign it or wait till you had it graded?