I was 7 when Gen 4 came out, it was the first time I got into pokemon. Most the sets thats came out didn’t have that chase card to find and collect, thats the downfall of diamond and pearl, HGSS, and platinum sets. Even though Gen 4 is probably my favorite generation, I don’t collect set cards from this era. I’m starting to find and collect promos from this era now though. So far I bought a PSA 9 mysterious pearl, and just bought (overpaid) a PSA 9 2008 quarter-finalist tropical wind card. I might down the road collect Level x cards since they were my favorite ultra rare’s due to nostalgia, but I don’t see these cards increasing in price until kids that grew up with this generation finish college or find careers. If/when Nintendo ever decides to remake the Gen 4 titles I could see a little price spike for set card from this era.
Why shouldnt platinum/hgss sets skyrocket in the future?
because they are not WOTC.
Neither are gold stars 
Many ex series already compete with some of the WOTC sets, and they probably will continue to do so
Because all the money is going into WOTC, sealed products and trophy cards.
‘The market can stay inefficient longer than anyone can stay solvent’, I think I got that right.
Any item that we think is undervalued today due to whatever reasons can stay that way until we run out of capital to speculate. There is also the idea that if you buy really high end pieces today and hold it for however long possible, the value will definitely go up. This might be true for the past but we cannot make that assumption for the future. The best we should do is to think ‘what can we buy today that will at least get me my money back after inflation in the future’.
It is not about how much we can make on an investment but how much we can lose if everything went south. Some items are safer than others and is usually tied to the dollar amount. This was true after the 2017 drop of English cards. I know a lot of speculators along with myself lost a lot because we had that mentality of everything will go up no matter what.
Revisiting this topic months later.
DPP boxes had to have been much cheaper at the time of the last response on this thread. As of now, DPP boxes are easily selling for 1-2k a piece. Thoughts on this? HGSS is in the same boat as well.
Yep - lots of classic “wotc only” collectors who thought anything past skyridge couldn’t do anything, have been proven very very wrong recently.
Prices will keep rising I think, people are opening these boxes still. Thank Youtubers for that, the games were super popular so Nostalgia will rise. Definitely more expensive now than 9 months ago. What were prices back then ?
Koda- I believe the boxes were 400-800 or so last year.
I think you might have missread. People didn’t replay that this wont increase in value, it will do for sure but it will never be dramatic spikes or will never achieve the same as older stuff.
Really? I am not sure you are familiar with the prices of 2004 - 2012 gem mint (PSA 10) cards these days - Many are up 500-1000%+ over the last few years… far outpacing gains from some older sets (WOTC) in the same time frame.
Yeah, would be weird if a card with 16 years old wouldn’t go up. Still, they won’t be worth as much ad older sets but they sure will keep on increasing in value.
I am wary of buying a $1,000 box when the cards inside are worth so little compared to other sets and many other buyers are planning to sell down the road. Is that real demand from collectors who want these boxes, or artifically inflated from people hoping to sell?
With these era boxes they are scarce enough that it may not end up mattering. But when I see people clamoring for boxes due to hoped investment potential and not because people actually wanting them it turns me off.
This really hits the nail on the head.
When you start seeing more buy threads on here of people asking for PSA 9s and PSA 10s from these sets, then you’ll know these boxes are a good investment. Otherwise, I would say it’s more speculation. But like you said if the supply really is low enough then that may Our honorable president all else.
Diamond and pearl was a low point for Pokémon quality wise so I don’t see much genuine interest in the artworks or actual cards in those sets. I wouldn’t say the same for EX or HGSS era tho - those sets have some big chase cards and amazing artworks.
Can we please get t-rump out of the efour filter? The political posts just get deleted anyway.
Personally, I’m getting those boxes because I also grew up with DPP along with WOTC. They have a nostalgic factor to me and i love the artworks, common holo bleeds, and Lv.X cards.
Also, I know a lot of the sets don’t have expensive cards (yet), but all WOTC psa cards followed suite in price after the boxes went up. Would like to note though that there are cards that can cost a pretty penny in a 10. For example, Glaceon Lv. X, Zard Lv. X, Stormfront reprint base Zard, Secret rares, and etc. Maybe we will see that trend again once the DPP boxes go up first. At the end of the day, it’s all speculative!
i obviously dont know what everyone is thinking, but my theory is more as a speculative investment. With the jump in WOTC boxes and EX boxes these past few years, people are investing for when the collectors born around 2001/2002 start earning real money in a few years since D&P sets are most likely the first sets they were exposed to. I would expect a rise in price of those cards once those kids start hitting 20+ but that is still like 2 years away. I personally see why some people would buy to keep them sealed but I do think the value is higher than it should be right now. If you are buying it to open, just buy the singles, the boxes are too high to get a good return right now.
As someone who grew up with these sets, I think they will go up but not in expected ways. The problem with these sets, at least in my personal experience is the rare cards were unmemorable as a kid. Looking back at these sets it’s the commons and uncommons that really resonated with me (I also pulled maybe one rare ever so that’s a factor too). That’s why the set won’t go up much though in my opinion. I absolutely love a majority of the cards, but commons and uncommons aren’t going to break records. The only cards I could see really jumping in price are the Comic Con variants of cards, but those are actually quite rare and have artwork of regular common cards. I do think other people of this era as they hit older years will collect these cards though. Yeah they might collect WOTC too but there’s something about reliving your childhood that no matter of money, hype or “Instagram fame” can get you. For my generation DP is our childhood and that’s where the love of Pokémon started.
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