When you buy PSA 8.5 and expect PSA 11

And then take negative feedback for declining..

eBay sellers interested in a long-term successful business have no choice but to accept returns. And if the seller does it using Free 30 Day returns then any feedback left for returned items is eligible for removal. That’s why Scott has this policy on the majority of his listings.

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REEEEEeeEEEeeE

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Hey, he just didn’t like it.

If you are just going to return it, why buy it in the first place? Crazy…

I take your return and raise you one.

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LOL, you could get more for it now though so kind of a win :3

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I hope these “people” read our post. They get CLOWNED to oblivion every day and I love it.

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Ridiculous.

The company I work for has a “long term successful” business on ebay and we do not accept returns.

IMO it’s not worth it to accept returns, because of shit like this.

The only problem is that buyers will often buy something and pretend that it is not as described or broken when it isn’t, so they can open a return.

But once in a while you get some imbecile who opens a return for ‘bought item buy mistake’ or ‘just didn’t like it’ and it is a ton of fun closing their returns.

Well my guess is you don’t have 100% positive feedback. For one and two I don’t think you understand the return process… If a buyer says an item is not as described or broken it doesn’t matter what your return policy is they can still return it HOWEVER if you offer 30 day free returns you’re feedback protected if you offer anything else you aren’t. Sure you can deny the ‘bought by mistake’ request (which no one ever opens) then they’ll hit it with a hammer and tell eBay after completely unboxing the item its actually not as described. Like there is no way around it - 30 day free returns or bust

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Well, your guess is wrong.

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Not only 100%, but we are top rated seller aswell. No returns accepted, never will accept returns.

I don’t know where your comment about me not understanding the return process comes from.

I acknowledge that “often buy something and pretend that it is not as described or broken when it isn’t, so they can open a return.”

The only way you can return an item to us is by lying and pretending that it is broken, which does happen.

What I’m wondering now, is is it possible to open a case for ‘Bought the wrong thing’ , have your case closed by us, and then open a a case for ‘its broken’. (as you are suggesting) I would assume that you can only open one case but with ebay you can never assume.

How do you have top rated seller but no returns? They require returns for top rated seller. Curious to know your secrets, asking for a friend. :wink:

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I’m not sure how it works, but here is some proof that we are top rated. You can check any of our listings and see the return policy too (no returns)

I would never dare bullshit anyone on this forum, this is the best place on the internet and probably the only place you can buy cards at market prices and I have no desire to be banned or known as being full of shit.

I have a lot of respect for the users here and this forum and wouldn’t open my mouth if I didn’t have some input.

Here’s some proof.

gyazo.com/78595498a4d85d34043bb675e0ff6425

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So with the fact that we are top rated and NEVER accept any returns, I believe it is possible to be top rated and not accept returns. I think you are mistaken.

@karmaawhoree, I believe you, I was just genuinely curious! I remember they made me change to 30 days free returns. Maybe they changed the standards back and I didn’t notice.

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I think that’s the most likely explanation! I remember when they made the change that you must accept return stuff to be a top rated seller, I got the email.

The boss’s reaction was ‘Well I guess we aren’t gonna be top rated anymore’

And yet here we are, top rated without returns.

The problem for us is that we sell a lot of High end Xeon processors- this stuff costs 3,500$, but in 30 days, it costs 3,000$. The prices go down that fast.

So we can’t possibly survive if we accept returns. A lot of this stuff we pay 3,000 for and try to sell for 3,500- we will get destroyed if someone returns the 3500$ processor a month later when it sells for 2900$ before eBay and PayPal fees.

But Pokémon stuff seems equally problematic to accept returns of. I see you’re selling a Pikachu card on eBay and the current bid is 7,500$. I don’t know how much it’s worth, let’s assume 50,000$ for the sake of the discussion.

The card is worth 50,000$ today, I can buy it, in a month it’s either gone up and it’s worth 60,000, if so I’ll keep it, but if it goes down to 40,000, I can just return it for 50?

It’s like investing in high risk stocks except you can only make money.

I assume you have some method of protecting yourself from people looking to make free bets at your expense.

By the way, I didn’t realize you were the founder of this amazing community. I am so happy to be a member here so I can learn about this amazing community, I have been here for two days and already doubled my knowledge of Pokémon collecting. Thank you for making this great place that has attracted so many knlowegeable and very wealthy, powerful people where anyone can go hang out with millionaires for free.

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Ebay request:

Please change that option to: “F*** the seller?”. Insert bulls**t here…

@karmaawhoree, I just checked the requirements, and it looks like the returns are based on the category:

Your product category is probably exempt!

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You can be a ‘Top Rated Seller’ as an account but the listings individually that don’t have the proper handling time and return policy don’t get any of the top rated benefit, reduction in fees, badge, ect

Click through their profile and listings - none of them have the Top Rated Badge because they don’t meet the requirements.

I was actually just about to make a thread here griping about how prevalent grade policing seems to have become on Virbank (which I’m aware is a cesspool to begin with). Every other listing for a graded card has some no-name in the comments like “hOw DiD tHiS gEt aN 8.”

Tbh I even think the idea of a “strong 9” or a “weak 9” is sort of stupid and people should avoid advancing the existence of that concept because it complicates the whole grade/value relationship, but I understand that increasing amounts of money involved mean increasing attention to detail. At the very least, though, I find second guessing grades on public listings every bit as annoying as price policing.

LOLOLOL MT+