From release date to a few months in it was about $200. I am shocked to see it climb all the way up to $600. Pull rates didn’t change, just demand.
Congrats to him and shocking to see the new pull rate! 
*He could have bought 10 x PSA 10 Moonbreons and still have some spare change with that money spent on 3,700 packs! Just saying. 
TCGplayer just sold a $749.98 raw on 1st May. Might be updated on their site soon.
I did a search out of curiosity. When Moonbreon was newly released, it was sold around $110 to $120+.
Exactly.
If the money flushed out of the hobby, this forum would be a wasteland.
I think you’ve gotten this forum mixed up with Reddit/Instagram/Twitter/Facebook.
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Yeah E4 was here long before Pokémon became a financial boom
Collecting is collecting. Pokémon cards, action figures, coins, comics, stamps etc.
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Doesn’t matter how long E4 has been here. What matters is how many of the active users on this forum joined after 2019. Both you and @Dyl joined in 2022 lol.
Many of the users I saw active when i was new in 2017 are long gone, The topics around here were much different when 1k was a lot for a vintage box.
Okay, so I joined in 2022? Doesn’t mean I didn’t lurk or had another hobby I was more involved in
I get what you mean. Something I noticed is 2020 everything was about money. Today I feel like most of the money/speculation talk is in modern, and vintage is more relaxed.
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What does that say about the state of the hobby? Or the differences etc.
Hi, I was previously from numismatics too. Collected a small collection, participated in auctionhouses’ auctions, sold my entire collection several years back as lost interest. Moved on from there to another hobby, and now back to my childhood hobby Pokemon TCG.
Numismatics is all about the mintage and monetary value. Nobody is collecting coins and bank notes for only its beauty and artwork.
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People’s interests, priorities and needs are constantly changing. They do move on to different hobbies as they enter different phases of their life.
On a more solemn note: Not forgetting, we have gone thru a pandemic, some of them might not have survived.
*Have heard about suggestions that scalpers, flippers and investors chased/discouraged collectors from the hobby. All I can say is, if I’m interested and passionate about collecting something, nobody is going to stop me from pursuing my hobby. Nobody.
I hope they just went a little more incognito as this place got more users, rather than completely moving on.
Maybe those users would come back if the hobby lost some of the focus on money and popularity/hypebeast.
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Comb thru the posters in this thread. Hundreds of posts talking about value of a card and only a handful of users with an account before 2020 lol
Hard to argue when most of the active users here only came after the biggest monetary boom in pokemon’s history, that they care any less about the money aspect than other platforms like IG.
Title of the thread is “What happened to moonbreon price?” Why would comments not be about the value when thats what the thread is about?
As far as your “They only care about the money if they joined during 2020”, thats not true in all cases. I lurked for about 2 years before I felt comfortable joining conversation with something meaningful to add. I also collect decks which are the lowest value, lowest growth, lowest wanted product you can find out there in pokemon cards. No social media, no interest in investment, just because its talked about doesnt mean that money is the main focus or reason, some of us just enjoy collecting.
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It’s a bit silly to say that just because you joined after a certain date means you are money motivated. I can name at least 20 people who used to be active before 2020 that don’t really visit anymore because they saw the money and influence they could yield on larger platforms. That’s great and I’m happy for them and that e4 was part of their journey.
In the reverse perspective, there are plenty of people who were exposed to serious collecting after 2020 who just like the cards and don’t really sell anything.
Market talk and money is always going to be a relevant topic because you need money to buy the things you want in this hobby. All that being said, I agree if you took the money out of the equation, activity on all places where pokemon card discussions happen would plummet, including e4. But it is also worth noting that e4 has been around 3x longer “pre-2020” than “post-2020”
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I get your point, but I think you’re overestimating the % of investors here. Unfortunately money is part of the game, and you need to understand market and value in order to optimize your buying habits and complete your collection.
I personally would be more than happy if I could buy any cards for like 1/10 of today value, I don’t sell my cards and I collect since 2015/16 only for my personal enjoyment.
My story is really similar to @lyleberr and others: a lot of people joined recently since there is a physiological learning curve that people spent lurking here.
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I came back to collecting Pokemon in mid-late 2019 and joined this forum in March 2020. I don’t recall there having been significant price movement (at least for PSA 9 exs) between 2019 and March 2020. The real gold rush started more in May/June 2020 (for e-Series/EX), and hit a fever pitch (particularly for early WotC/modern) in late 2020/early 2021. So I think it’s inaccurate to say that someone who joined in early 2020 came “after the biggest monetary boom.”
And even for people who joined in mid-late 2020 or 2021/22, I think it’s unfair to generalize that they’re only in it for the money. I think what you’re missing is that the monetary boom was in large part a reflection of increased interest in collecting rather than the catalyst of that increased interest.
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It’s a pretty goofy thing to correlate when you joined e4 with priorities. The statement comes across as an overgeneralization at best and elitist at worst.
I find the “oldies vs. newbies” topic to be a bit strange altogether. I remember this same debate back in 2016 when PokemonGo released. All of a sudden, people who had no interest in Pokemon were “die hard fans” spending many hours every day walking in the streets to catch their favorite Pokemon. The rest of us were so confused… Where were they before the POGO-Boom? Would they stay in the hobby? What was their motivation?
At the end of the day, none of those questions really mattered. Every boom leads to massive short-term interest and a marginal number of people who actually “stick” long-term.
It really does not matter when someone joined. I’m happy that they found a hobby that is meaningful to them and fully welcome them to join the rest of us. Judging their knowledge/interests/motivations by when they joined is alienating - it’s just as much their hobby as it is mine.
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