Moonbreon Eclipsed by Sunbreon - perfect representation of Modern Pokemon?

Moonbreon:
NM raw is selling for $1300-$2000 on TCGplayer, most around $1800.
PSA 10 is selling around $2500-$2700, but saw highs of $3k-3.1k

Sunbreon:
NM raw is selling for $1600 on TCGplayer
PSA 10 is selling around $3500-4500 and seeing highs over $4600

Thought the shiny new card in print taking over is a good summation of modern collector bros and food for conversation.

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why pay what it will be worth in 20 years in 20 years when you can pay that price today

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A lot of people begging to get burned by Pokemon company overprinting this set as the months go by. The shakeout will arrive like a thief in the night, imho

Also - Umbreon VMAX is a better looking card by a long shot

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He’s got to make money to, even though he probably makes thousands off of the show alone…

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even if pokemon prints this into the ground, i think it has the power to permanently sustain a psa10 price of over $3k, even if i dont agree with it being worth the price

Ive read that 1 in 53 packs contain a SIR
and 32 different variations. Means thats 1 in 1,696 packs
what makes this number more daunting:

  1. the demi god packs dont guarantee eeveelutions the same way terastal festival does so you still have less than 10% chance even when you pull a demigod
  2. true God packs are impossibly rare
  3. there is no booster pack that contains 20 - 36 packs of cards so ppl cant just rip endlessly the way they can with many other sets
  4. the etb will likely never ever sniff msrp and i doubt you will ever be able to randomly go to target or best buy on a late afternoon and find it on the shelf
  5. the going rate of $12 per pack seems sustainable. Even if it dropped to as low as $10 a pack, the set lacks hits, pokeball reverse cards dont go for much and there is not much else going for it since the “hits” in this set seem to be just master balls. So when a buyer finally hits a SIR they want a big return
  6. with the way sealed product is going, even if pokemon ramps up production heavily into 2026, I can see buyers hoarding sealed etbs as an investment so many of these will stay sealed and less umbreons will hit the market

7) The quality of the card is subpar and psa seems more than happy to keep this as a huge chase for their own self interests.
Many are simply being denied a psa10. Nicks in the corners even tiny ones are enough for psa to say its a 9, and they are being harsh with centering

  1. Umbreon isnt an obscure card. Yes its true this pokemon isnt as big as pikachu and charizard, but at the same time its featured MUCH less so the big cards that do get featured always seem to maintain big $$. Umbreon is up there with Lugia, Mew, Raqquaza, Mewtwo, gyrados…and honestly? may have surpassed all of them in hype and popularity.
    Sunbreon will always have comps to the original moonbreon from neo discovery and the moonbreaon from evolving skies. It will never touch 1st edition Neo psa10 prices due to rarity, but can easily sustain over evolving skies as its more uniquely positioned as the sun card being the true counterpart to the moon card
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Personally i think when the dust settles and the honeymoon phase is over, the SWSH Vs and VMAXs will be pricier than the prismatic evolution counterpart.

I also just think the SWSH ones just have better design and nicer art. Although thats subjective.

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