Another thread started talking about the current interest in thick/thin 1st Ed base stamps and how thick deserved a premium.
I’ve been concentrating on those stamps for 15 years.
I found a decade old spreadsheet of my extras and notice how I had them separated categorized. Btw…I said extras cause I had 4 complete sets, 3 thin and 1 thick. They are still on the PSA site.
Fun to see this old record below. I can remember so many stories behind some of the entries:)
Great post Gary!
Wait… we had an opportunity to call them Fat Stamps?
Someone fucked up.
We like um thicc
Here’s a conversation from 2009 about the thick/thins. I wonder who they’re talking about;)
Kinda like the Shadowless. I started that identification by calling them “No Shadows” but shadowless stuck:(
To add the context to that necro post, when I still hadn’t discover punctuation, I was referring to the origin of the terms. Similar to “Shadowless”, its a collector term, not something official from WOTC. Back then thick/thin was super niche. Now its more accepted, and the market dictates the value!
And cool spreedsheet Gary! Always nice to see data.
Some people care about them, others don’t… Still, that chart shows Thick are definitely scarcer. I wonder what it would look like now
I just figured people who have already collected all the notable cards in the hobby came up with all these variations and niches to justify continued collecting, where as the rest of us shmucks are still trying to scratch together the cash for a measly PSA 9 Charizard
I remember wanting to own a thin psa 9 to add to my thick stamp, then prices just escaped me and I couldn’t afford it
Thanks:) I’ll see if I can find some other stuff the forum would like to see.
The chart does not definitely show thick are scarcer.
There are 99 thicks and 186 thins. If we assume these came from boxes and each box only has one type of stamp, there are roughly 9 thick boxes and 16 thin boxes represented here. The probability of seeing an imbalance like this (or worse) completely by chance is roughly 23%. In other words, this is a completely normal outcome if we assume 50% of the boxes printed have thick stamps and 50% are thin.
Even if the imbalance was big enough to believe thicks could indeed be scarcer, you are also dealing with data that is potentially extremely biased. For instance, if Gary had gotten these predominately from one or two sources or mostly in one regional area, we’d probably expect to see some imbalance.
Sorry for breaking out the fedora, I don’t mean to be a dick. It’s very possible that in reality thicks are actually scarcer than thins, but this data cannot be used to show that. I just don’t want unsupported information to spread that may be untrue.
PS. I own that PSA 8.5 Mewtwo because it was pop 1 when I bought it 
I just wanted to add that if you were only taking about graded supply, you’d probably be right in saying thicks were harder to come by graded than thins (at least in 2009) because most of the 2009 pop report is probably represented here
This made me go and check the 11 1st holo base cards I currently own. 1 grey, 1 thin, 9 thick. I have never bothered to really check before but I am pretty surprised if thick stamps really are more scarce. But a 285 sample size from a single source is not enough to draw a solid conclusion especially after my thick vs thin ratio implies the polar opposite.
I had no idea there was a “fat stamp” term that was used 
I always thought it was a bit odd calling the “1” thick or thin, especially when there are already less colloquial terms available in typography, such as “bold” or “light”. A bold stamp or light stamp would additionally be more related to the circumstance of their production anyway. I guess the current terms are more catchy though.
Were these holos all from boxes you opened or were you also sourcing singles at the time?
I’ve combed through a lot of 1st ed base holos in the past for the express purpose of figuring out the thin-to-thick stamp ratio.
From what I’ve observed, there are roughly twice as many thin stamp holos as there are thick stamp holos, but the ratio will vary at any given time depending on the sample.
Many were from boxes. The majority I’d say,
Just Curious… How many 1st Ed. Base Boxes do you think you opened back in the day? You’ve still got one or two (LOL) lying around in storage; so I can only imagine how many you actually opened!