The PWCC Megathread

There is a 9 listed on Mercari for $24k, and a 10 on snkrdunk for $42k, this AUTH copy is rough so I think they didn’t want it to get a 2-3 or something. This was my best and cheapest chance to get a copy, but it quickly past what I was willing to throw down (which was already orders of magnitude more than I have ever bid on anything before…).

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Hard luck. I will be rooting for you to get his card eventually and @eeveeteam to get the scramble. Maybe not now but eventually you both will get there.

Cheers!

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What makes it so rare?

Only 100 copies handed out as a tie in to the XYZ anime coming out through a lottery.

Per Bulbapedia:

Another print featuring the Pocket Monsters XY&Z logo was distributed through a TV Tokyo lottery in early 2016. To enter the lottery, Japanese residents were required to call TV Tokyo between December 24 and December 30, 2015. Winners were notified by January 18, 2016, 100 of which were given this card.

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Was there a crease or something? It didn’t look that bad to me. Maybe a PSA 7 or 8.

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There is a weird spot in the middle of the back of the card that I assumed was a indent or something that would drop the grade dramatically.

I’ll be curious if we see a new graded copy come onto the market (i.e., the buyer cracking this and sending it back to PSA).

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I’d be happy with that, because it means my competition on the Registry didn’t get it.

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PAID

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Accidently typed “pokmon” into the PWCC Fixed search.

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I don’t know if it’s notable or not since I have never looked them up but a DPP holo reaching $1740 even if it is Rayquaza and low pop seems notable?

Doesn’t look like anything special to me. Maybe those who grew up then see it differently.

edit: Left the Houndoom with a much superior art in there as a comparison.

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I just checked, it seems there was a 10 emerald Rayquaza too. Didn’t even get 500$

So weird to see. Pop reports are dangerous (not that emerald is even high pop). So much stuff is inflated imo. It’s like a few things are stuck in 2021 for no reason.

Is it dangerous to pay these kinds of prices for “low” pop d&p holos?

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yea that looks oddly high to me. maybe two people who really wanted it got into a bidding war lol

Could be tax return or crypto money flowing in. :person_shrugging: People do not have price memory when money enters their accounts.

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I’m seriously about to give up on PWCC, I think allowing crypto is the reason so many things just end up higher than they “should”, it’s an easy way to launder (or just avoid paying taxes) some money and it ends up jacking up prices for everyone else.

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PSA 10 2xxxxxxx cert Trophy kangaskhan on pwcc.


This copy definitely would not get a 10 if it is submitted today. More like a CGC 10/9.5

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Oh the life of a species master set collector…

The price doesn’t blow my mind too much. There are quite a few rich individuals going for the rayquaza master set in PSA 10. I know of 2 at least, and I’m not even really around on IG or anything like that where most of these guys live. I get that the ‘low pop’ argument doesn’t mean the card should instantly be massively expensive, but consider that this is the first public sale in 2 years (according to tcgfish), and that D&P era doesn’t exactly grade amazingly well and the pop is unlikely to explode any time soon, I’m not shocked that two or more well off collectors got into a bidding war over this card to be honest

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I can’t remember the term someone used on here, but the problem is that the demand is equally low, so if 2 people get in a bidding war, the next time a card like that is up, there is no 3rd person to engage in a 2nd bid war.

In its favour, Rayquaza is a popular Pokemon but personally the art isn’t great. Of course art is subjective and I have an anti-CGI bias, but I think CGI cards are overly reliant on nostalgia to see appreciation in price whereas other cards have the potential to expand their audience past those who grew up with them.

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Yes absolutely, very good chance the next copy to come along earns like $500 or something. But if you’re going for these cards (and are rich) are you going to wait potentially a few years for the next one to come around? Buying at that price isnt a smart financial move for sure but if your goal is the rayquaza master set then buying it as soon as its available is a smart move imo

The question isn’t whether the price is surprising, it’s about whether the price is sustainable.

Is there more latent ungraded PSA 10 supply ready to be found, or more buyers willing to pay >$1700? For a mass-produced card, I know how I would be betting