It won’t happen overnight, is a slow process. But it will start accumulating slowly.
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So you’re saying that PSA 10 Base Unlimited Charmanders shouldn’t be $200+? It was pretty controversial for me to say that a couple months ago lol. I pissed off a lot of people on this exact thread.
I 100% agree with you, though. It’s interesting also because there are some cards that are increasing in PSA 9 pop at a decent rate (namely the exs) but that are experiencing little to no PSA 10 pop growth. So the ratios of 9 and 10 pops have pretty much become inverted. Last I checked, many (if not most) exs haven’t even had a single PSA 10 added to the pop this year. I’m hoping that the 10 pops start to boom at some point but IDK at this point lol.
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I have 2 50 card orders complete this month from may, but my 400 card order sent a few days prior is still in grading
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It’s crazy to think that the pop growths we are seeing on cards right now are almost all express or regular $50+ per card submissions. Like look at SWSH050 (Champions Path ETB Charizard V). There are 1,534 of those things graded… and the PSA 10 is selling for sub $200.
Maybe PSA has a genius plan to tie up every card they possibly can in a $10 or less bulk queue and then in a few months they will offer a new “premium bulk” tier that costs $20-$25 per card so you can jump in front of the 1M+ bulk backlog so that those cards in the backlog never get flushed out.
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yeah, psa can technically wait for years to grade bulk, since there is no guarantee on turnaround times…
masterful move.
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Reading this just made me sad. 
This video is an accurate description of how I feel being in this relationship with PSA
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it’s possible that they “should have” been $200 at that particular moment in time because there was a lack of graded supply on the market coupled with inexperienced buyers that weren’t aware of the vast supply of base unlimited charmanders out there. Now the market and the participants have changed along with the prices.
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Yes, any price at any point in time is what an item should be worth. Prices are solely a result of supply and demand. But that price point was clearly not going to last, and any person with any amount of knowledge would realize that. I mean, the PSA pop of Base 1st Edition Charmander was like 4x that of Base Unlimited Charmander. Yet Base 1st Edition is obviously rarer. So that alone should indicate to any prospective buyer that the pop report of Base Unlimited Charmander has an insane amount of room to grow.
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@zorloth agreed, that’s why most experienced collectors could see those prices being unsustainable. The reasons I stated are why the prices went up to $200 or whatever and that at that moment in time they SHOULD HAVE been worth that even though a lot of us knew it wouldn’t last. I was just saying that because you said that a few months ago you said they shouldn’t be worth $200 but those factors I stated are why they should have been $200. I think we’re getting into semantics though lol and we both understand what we really meant to say
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Except overtime they risk losing market share to CGC or BGS. The more cards that go through them, the more exposure those brands will get in the marketplace and end consumers might get more used to them overtime.
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I said market, not population report 
a cards population can grow without the market being flooded.
Floods aren’t usually known for being a slow process haha!
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Would it be an erosion of the prices 
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Where are all the LC booster boxes hiding?
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As rare as skyridge. Hard to find
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Base Set (1st Ed)
Base Set (Shadowless)
Legendary Collection
Skyridge
Ex Deoxys
Are these the top 5 hardest to find sets? Are there any others on the same level? How would the ranking go?
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If we are talking about print runs, I think TMTA is even scarcer than Deoxys, though definitely not as much desirable.
I would add neo destiny 1st ed to the list.
Not sure about the order.
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I don’t believe TMTA is scarcer than Deoxys. There are lots of booster packs available, a ton more of the blister packs in comparison (a sealed blister box) and the PSA population report is higher.
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I think more than one person stated on the forum that TMTA probably had the lowest print run. @zorloth, am I dreaming stuff?
Anyways there’s no doubt Deoxys is among the sets that had the lowest print runs.
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It’s rather hard to gauge. My hunch is EX Hidden Legends, EX Emerald, and EX TATM had the lowest of the EX-series. While the boxes for these sets are considerably easier to find than later EX sets, those later sets also benefited from a ton of promotional products that Nintendo started churning out for big box stores (eg 3-pack blisters, tins, etc.) and weren’t as dependent on boxes to sell.
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No, you’re not dreaming stuff . I’m firmly of the opinion that TMTA had the lowest print run of any EX Series set. I have a significant amount of evidence for this, but there’s no way for me to ‘prove’ it. It’s possible that Deoxys had a smaller print run, but I would be very surprised.
@hisoka107, TMTA sealed product is more common but that’s not a reflection of print run. I think it’s more a reflection of the fact that EX Deoxys has extremely desirable chase cards that drive people to open it (and lots of it, because of how low GS pull rates are). TMTA has no real chase cards; I think more of it was kept sealed because there wasn’t much reason to open lots of it in chase of anything.
And as it relates to the PSA pop report, that’s false. If we adjust for pull rates, TMTA has significantly lower PSA pops. There were 9 exs in Deoxys and 7 exs in TMTA. So each ex in TMTA is much more common (if you want to see the exact calculation, I should have it on my pull rate thread).
Regardless, I believe that Deoxys is in the top 5 lowest print run EX Series sets. But I do feel very, very strongly that TMTA had a smaller print run. But people tend to get pretty annoyed when absolute statements about print runs are made – so I am making it clear that this is my belief. I have tons of basis for it, but there’s nothing that I could provide that would demonstrate this conclusively.
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