Tariffs begin: how will it affect buying and shipping cards to the US?

So the e4 Vault is coming after all! Run by pfm in Canada.

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Exactly this haha! Pfm vault, for all your card needs

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Canadian seller here. I primarily sell and ship to the US, it’s really not that challenging and most buyers don’t care.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of us in Canada doing the same thing.

Not directed at you at all, but the lack of world understanding from Americans is incredibly frustrating at times and it shows up in the collecting space a lot.

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Due to market sizing, I’m sure a Canadian seller would experience this a lot more than an American buyer. I’ve spent the last hour trying to think of when I had bought a card from Canada before, and I can only recall one time back in October 2021.

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I think most Canadians don’t ship to international because it seems intimidating, but it’s really quite easy.

Re: tariffs tho, I don’t think it will change much. Most of my buyers request marked as gift anyways.

Canada just announced counter tariffs. It’s going to be a long 4 years.

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Sorry for a naive question but since the times I buy cards from Canada it is because the exchange rate makes it worth it, if everyone is locked in trade wars how will this effect currency strengths?

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me trying to get pfm’s full art trophy cock of the rock

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You may have bought from Canadians more than you realize. Many sell in USD on ebay.com and you’ll get the card via USPS if they ship though Canada post. Many also set their address from a border city and cross to the US to ship. Basically there was functionally no difference until today to an American whether you were buying from the US or Canada. But now you have to pay attention or get hit with an unexpected tax - which highlights the relevancy of the tariff

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We aren’t affected to be honest. Playing cards and other toys face no tariff in the HTS. The new HTS guidelines are already up. The threshold is $800 minimum and we would have to be importing material goods such as animal based products, foodstuffs, cotton, etc etc. Unless you’re Walmart or some major business that relies on importing materials from Canada, there is nothing here to affect the Pokemon community.

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https://hts.usitc.gov

Here is the full Harmonized Tariff Schedule that began today.

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Speaking as a Canadian, Vermont syrup is pretty tasty. So I think you guys are good there :maple_leaf:

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Canadian here also. Trump I suppose is figuratively building a wall and making us pay for it haha

Back to the topic of cards, I don’t see why any Americans would want to buy cards from Canada since there are so many better sellers in the States. I’ve bought from US a few times, but as I typically purchase low-end cards, international shipping costs already makes it not worth it unless the bid ends significantly under market. Not to mention if I am unlucky they charge another ~$10 customs. Buying within Canada saves so much more money unless I’m getting some Bestbuy exclusive promo only available in the states.

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As mentioned in the op the goal of the this thread isn’t about the politics or if the tariffs are justified, we are focusing on the consequences

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Thanks for the info

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Good for the Tariffs. Work harder make money and live with it . For Card related things.

Order a ton of Cardsavers, toploaders, graded and penny sleeves. ASAP.

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In 2007 it looks like there was a ruling that classified MtG as “playing cards”. But 9504.40.0000 deals with “packs”. And can you play with a slabbed card in the sense that you can play with one out of the pack? Are secondhand sales subject to tariffs at all?

This ruling and this ruling from earlier years seem to put sports and other collectible cards in 49 but the MtG ruling is more recent and relevant I would think. Either way it’s very confusing, what a mess.

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Is there currently 0 import on these items?

Speaking from the UK: Yes, it’s expensive to buy cards from across Europe, North America, rest of world etc as you get hit with import as well as vat.
The UK prices are on average higher than other eu and North American countries, I figure in part because sellers reflect costs in their pricing.
Many buyers mark down packages or request it to avoid this playing a risky game of not being covered if items are lost.

We get hit with import and VAT very quickly, Tax and customs for goods sent from abroad: Tax and duty - GOV.UK

It definitely leads to me importing less than I would like and can make packages feel painful though many ebay sales will add VAT and import to the initial purchase price.

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I’m from the UK and we used to have a free trade deal with the EU until we left.

Before leaving I had constant sales and purchases from mainland Europe (on a daily basis). When we left a 20% import tarrif and handling fee was added, this pretty much stopped my european trade overnight.

I probably get 1 or 2 European sales a month and generally these are for rarer cards that collectors are willing to pay extra for (1999-2000 base set, gold stars, crystal rares etc.).

As a consequence of leaving the EU and isolating our market further our prices have been pushed up. I would say UK sales average about 20-30% higher than Europe.

I’d expect a similar situation with Canadian prices increasing but USA prices staying in a similar place due to a significantly higher supply.

Just my two cents!

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When joe hockey made everything outside of Australia attract gst, eBay Australia just added 10% to every international ebay purchase.
Sucked balls, and now a lot of people use middle man services haha