Respectful Discussion on UPCCC Giveaways/Pkmn Giveaways

[samsamsamsmsms]

@swolepoke

I mean people are just discussing their opinions, and stating facts…

It’s not like it’s a bunch of “ew new members suck” post lol people are writing mini essays practically Explainh themselves. So for you to say it’s not a discussion is wrong.

You’re making yourself look like a whinnier, beforr anyone could even speak you went and threw a “Giveaway”, with rules that would rub these people the wrong way…

That to me seems like you’ are the one that’s whinning about these people’s Opinion, and not discussing your thoughts on it

That is exactly my point. If taking the opposing side of the argument to an equal magnitude seems whinny than the initial argument is also whiny.

[ozenigma]

@samsamsamsmsms

@swolepoke

I mean people are just discussing their opinions, and stating facts…

It’s not like it’s a bunch of “ew new members suck” post lol people are writing mini essays practically Explainh themselves. So for you to say it’s not a discussion is wrong.

You’re making yourself look like a whinnier, beforr anyone could even speak you went and threw a “Giveaway”, with rules that would rub these people the wrong way…

That to me seems like you’ are the one that’s whinning about these people’s Opinion, and not discussing your thoughts on it

That is exactly my point. If taking the opposing side of the argument to an equal magnitude seems whinny than the initial argument is also whiny.

I don’t think you are actually making a rational argument.

There has been a lot of healthy discussion about this perceived problem.

You adding sarcastic passive aggressive tones did not help one bit, at all. If you want to discuss actual reasons why others should re-consider their opinion on who can enter a giveaway, then please list them like an adult. We are all here to help each other.

[dragontype]

Churlocker, That was truly magnificent! brought a tear to my eye. Never have I heard someone speak of the Pokemon Collecting hobby with such passion!

I now feel privileged, that the administration of this Forum have opened up this forum for other collectors like myself. You have my gratitude, thank you!

[samsamsamsmsms]

@ozenigma

@samsamsamsmsms

That is exactly my point. If taking the opposing side of the argument to an equal magnitude seems whinny than the initial argument is also whiny.

I don’t think you are actually making a rational argument.

There has been a lot of healthy discussion about this perceived problem.

You adding sarcastic passive aggressive tones did not help one bit, at all. If you want to discuss actual reasons why others should re-consider their opinion on who can enter a giveaway, then please list them like an adult. We are all here to help each other.

Sorry. Next time I will use the same technique of arguing as everyone else so that every one knows how mature I am. What’s wrong with having an aggressive form of arguing? Most of the time if you just list your opinion in a straightforwards manner people with an opposing idea will just skim right over it without really considering the details.

I just think everyone is overthinking this process. There is just no way you will ever be able to determine who is more warranted in winning a giveaway and who is just trying to scam the system before the gift has been given.

[KingPokemon]

I realize you don’t see it Sam but from the outside looking into the above conversation you don’t show up well. Certainly nobody appeared “whinny” before you posted.
Based on all your previous contributions I know this is uncharacteristic.

[samsamsamsmsms]

@KingPokemon

I realize you don’t see it Sam but from the outside looking into the above conversation you don’t show up well. Certainly nobody appeared “whinny” before you posted.
Based on all your previous contributions I know this is uncharacteristic.

You’re right. I don’t see it. The scenario where a user decides to give away a decent amount of merchandise to any one that can view this site and another user doesn’t think it should be seen by lurkers and potential scammers and asks mods to consider moving it. The mod determines it’s acceptable the way it is but a long drawn out post is still created essentially complaining about a consequence where reading minds would be necessary to alleviate the issue. That is my interpretation but I guess my interpretation can not always be contained by the majority. Oh well.

[acebren]

your interpretation could have been conveyed less arrogantly, all these posts are opinions and even if you think your opinion is the correct one, you shouldnt treat other peoples opinions like trash

[samsamsamsmsms]

Putting the word respectful in front of something doesn’t actually make it respectful just like candy coating a response doesn’t actually change the meaning. I tend to offer my opinion unsolicited and if I did offende anyone, I do sincerely apologize as it was not my true intent.

[acebren]

youre the only one who has said anything that has not been respectful lol

[samsamsamsmsms]

Respect is subjective. I’d rather know someone’s true opinion than a fruity response.

[acebren]

so whos been giving fruity responses?

[samsamsamsmsms]

I speaking of my responses being viewed as disrespectful because they aren’t fruity enough or too critical since I don’t know where other peoples responses lay within their own true opinion

[acebren]

right, well you can still get your opinion heard in a more friendly way, this is a group full of friends and we’d all like to see it treated that way

[samsamsamsmsms]

A true friend is honest and blunt. I didn’t directly insult anyone. I insulted the concern of this matter by calling it silly and implied that it came off as whining as well as stating it outright.

[swolepoke]

Most immature way of handling a subject that people are trying to have a light disscussion about, that isn’t even that serious.

[milhouse]

Since I don’t like to get into discussions like this (quite simply put I don’t care most of the time). But I figured I’d share this time.

1. I don’t think the ‘Official’ Giveaways will be a success in bringing new members to the forums, what will most likely happen is people who lurked will join up once and then only post when a giveaway is happening.

2. I also don’t think it will have a negative effect on our forum at all. If @thorgene is gracious enough to do a giveaway and the admins approve it then I am all for that. We are lucky to have members here that want to do that. People who are seen to only be here to get in on giveaways over a long period are going to be moved on.

3. @fourthstartcg is clearly passionate about UPCCC and Pokemon collecting in general, people may think he is being precious and too serious and that’s fine. But I think it’s a dick move to try and bring him down. Anybody who cares about UPCCC enough to have that concern is ok with me.

4. Considering all that, and even though I don’t think the giveaways are going to be a ‘success’ for their intent. If even 1 or 2 people sign up for the giveaways and then proceed to become active and positive members of UPCCC then I am happy.

[KingPokemon]

@samsamsamsmsms

A true friend is honest and blunt. I didn’t directly insult anyone. I insulted the concern of this matter by calling it silly and implied that it came off as whining as well as stating it outright.

You have a lot to learn young man;)

[dragontype]

We should have gladiatorial death matches instead?

[theeucollector]

Guess you could do an art competition or quiz or something?

[omahanime]

@theeucollector

Guess you could do an art competition or quiz or something?

You need talent for art competition and some people have no talent. Google has simplified most quizzes.