Resellers

They also have the right to ask you which toilet you use. But the question is idiotic and any answer they get is of ZERO importance. And for them or anybody else to think differently is soooooo naive,
Grow up and get a life.

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OMG…There’s an adult in the room;)

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Why don’t the sellers just be happy they realized the cards were worth more this early before they sold off their whole stock and sell them along at the increased prices? Sure if they have pals gift them for free or pass them along for whatever cheaper price, but for the rest, make a bit of money and plow the money back into furthering their collections, paying down student debt, saving for college or whatever they see fit. I mean it seems fair to say that the 100 copies handled correctly could net any winner from 10k-50k over time. Sure sure it isn’t about the money and all that, but evil as some may think it is, it is a crucial part of our society.

Or as they could do from the very beginning, not sell any of them at all. It is one thing to make the decision not to sell, that is fine. But to get butthurt over re-sales and making that the reason for stopping selling doesn’t make sense to me.

Edited to add: POST 666 :open_mouth:

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Poppycock…

Thank God for part time and full time sellers, I’d say ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF MY COLLECTIONS IS THANKS TO THEM,
You say it makes it harder to get a good price. NO DUH. That’s the game. That’s why every member on e4 is a reseller/trader.

The final result of your statement would be everybody would have the exact same collection for the exact same price. BLAH… Sounds like boring unworkable socialism.

Finally said something that makes sense… :rofl:

Wow…another adult in the room.

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Pissed at yourself due to a market swing or things like that? I had tons of baseball cards, golden age comics, and the like that all got incinerated when I was a kid. I could still be “pissed” about that but WHY?

Gotta get over those types of things or you’ll be angry all your life and filled with regrets.

I have no beef with people who sell for a living. But I like them a lot more if they have some sort of personal collection, some investment in the hobby themselves, so its not all money for them.

That’s not what I’m saying at all. It just stinks when you lose out on a mint gold star card at 5,000 JPY when you know the person who bought it is just going to sell it for double. Resellers make it harder to find deals, and everyone loves a good deal, right?

I love resellers.

I know many people who constantly have cards changing hands, plush going from one to another. They help keep the pokemon economy balanced out. There are always people who are in it to play the game and to try and earn a decent return on their investments. They fill the market when collectors and players run dry.

Like Ethan, I would prefer for the resellers to at least show interest in the hobby and have some sort of collection. Why do something if it doesn’t inspire you? It must be pretty boring doing a job to “get by” and not enjoy yourself too! :blush: It frustrates me to all get out that “Poketubers” who open Japanese packs can’t remember pokemon names, and those who open English, glaze really quickly over pokemon and mess up names entirely. If you are a true fan, you should know your pokemon.

What I don’t love are liars.

I don’t care if you picked up a card for $50 and flip it for $100. That’s what finding deals exciting. You can say “Ooh I paid $20 for a card that is normally $40”. I don’t like people who scam little kids, scam others who don’t know values and definitely have no care in the world for people who flat out lie.

[Art Academy]
These winners, like Marie said, are new to the market and are moreso collectors than sellers. Sure, they can charge as much as they want, but they wanted to share their love with other people and let others care for and glorify a new piece to their collection. Asking what someone is going to do with something is a very critical part of this equation, because they easily can sell to people and make a wad of cash, but they wanted to let others enjoy their cards, not try and go down the road of reselling wherein those who really would love the cards be unable to get them. As Jamie mentioned, yes I too made great relationships with the sellers. It’s awesome because we’ve all been able to help others find many of the winners. I’ve stopped helping random people who PM me, because they seem to want the cards just to flip. Not good at all. That isn’t the winners’ intents, nor mine. I prefer the collecting to the selling, and respect their wishes. For instance, I told Meli about her card on ebay, she said whoever buys that is crazy, but if it does sell, all her next batches will be at that price. Tough to those who didn’t find her before, but why should they be cheated out of money? If you say you are putting it in a collection, do it. To those who say “BUT FINANCIAL ISSUES HAPPEN”, yes, they do. However someone who has 3 of one card, 2 of another etc. should #1 reevaluate their spending habits and #2 if they have that many multiples, it is clear they wanted to resell from the start.

Anyways all said and done, I like resellers, I dislike liars.

How do you know the person selling on JPY isn’t a reseller himself. Who knows they might have bought it from a card shop or something for dirt cheap. In this case the reseller made it easier.

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The majority of people on earth have jobs to “get by”. People need to put bread on the table. There is no reason why selling Pokemon cards should be an exception to this.

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Nobody is really hating on resellers at all. 90% of the posts here are saying how essential they are to the hobby.

That being said, the resellers “helping people with their collections” is kinda like rich people being called “job creators.” If you were really helping people out with their collections you would make little to no profit. But the whole idea of being a reseller is to maximize personal profit, not the number of people you “help” with their collection.

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well, in the grand scheme, whats the difference between a reseller selling high out of greed, and a collector selling high because the card is part of their collection? and the resellers charge extra for the service of spending hundreds of hours on yj and making it available to collectors who may not know about/want to deal with yj

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Philosphies and Life lessons with pokesynd @snap
I posted this in the gaint auction thread but
If someone sells these cards to someone else, then thats okay because it will probably go to someone who really wants it to there collection. If not then it will leave there collection and repeat untill it ends up in a collection where it is treated the best.

also the thing is every single advertisement in capitalism is a lie, thats usually how people sell things. By lieing. So I guess what your trying to say is that it would be good if people lie minimally or not at all… BUT WHAT IS A LIAR… How do you define a liar… I would define a liar as someone who sells a card listed as NEAr Mint but it ends up being played- excellent condition at best… OR THE COKA COLLA COMPANY!! Observe how coke company helps the homeless in this amazing advertisement of truth:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCS7HmjZAto
I’m sorry but the approach in america for police is to arrest the homeless… not give them a coke bottle -.- Arnt the policemen amazing… Someone who needs help with dental care or something and sells his card and its mint probably didnt have a choice, and should NOT be called a liar, but this is just the opinion of a mad man.

Also if someone is in financial trouble they usually sell something they own, and they do own it, so they are aloud to sell it. and if someone is crazy enough to pay twice as much as that person got it for, then maybe that someone is the one who deserves the card most.

I understand where your coming from though, but we dont know this guy because maybe he really did want the card badly, but he has big troubles. Say someone has health problems or cancer and needs to sell all there awesome stuff, It would also really suck for that person… SO WE MUST think of both sides of the story.
I dont want to sound like a dick, but eh yeah life situations get in the way of tingz… BUt for someone who really appreciates cards I understand exactly what your saying, because I myself would actuallyt put the card before my own rent monies :nerd_face:

BUt also I get very angry when this happens with no rarities, as I would like people to not just pick them up for profit if there going to take them as there is only few serious no rarity collectors… So you probably feel the same way about these academy cards because you have spent lots of time/money tracking them down… Try doing it with no rarities and you will basically commit suicide before you get it done in gem mint of course… Edit: But hey if market is willing to pay that much, I shouldnt be angry at them and make it personal, but i do sometimes xD The best approach to cards like this, is in my opinion, people who will put the card first no matter what the cost, and if that winner said the person who buys it is crazy… Edit: Couldnt this be the exact home she will want it to go to? and also it will benefit her greatly as the winners cards will go up in price, and the chances of someone who truely wants the card forever will go up even more since you will have to be willing to sacrifice more to get it… Though this doesnt always work out and its a slippery slope to, because someone who doesnt have money at all, but is after say no rarities or art academy cards like crazy, and wants them more then that person with money, then that would suck for them… So it is really impossible to know the motives or approval of these things unless you know what each side is coming from.

So yeah the conclusion in my opinion and things to come to accept on this episode of Philosphies and Life lessons with pokesynd Is - There not liars man, or bad people, there just not in the same situation your in… Frustration can lead us to judge because the way we feel about tingz xD

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I think it unfair to class the Art Academy winners in their own special branch of people.

If I sold ANYONE absolutely ANY card from my collection, it wouldn’t come with unfair and downright stupid caveats based on my feelings.

That’s what selling is about; I no longer require this object but would like some (money) in return.

(Deleted). Don’t want to share? Don’t be pissed when people stop caring and neglect the wishes of the illustrators. You can go on all day about “but the winners said don’t tell anyone how to contact me”. Your pseudo contract doesn’t affect me. This is the reason I’ve stopped looking for these cards, not many people willing to help unless it progresses their own desires, which is fair I guess.

(No offence to @pokemontrader or @espeon1993)

Edit: my post sounds terrible. Clarification;

If I owned an Art Academy card and wanted to sell it, I wouldn’t care about the wishes of the original owners, I would just proceed with what I wanted to do. If that process hurt Art Academy collectors, sorry but you have to look out for number one.

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In my eyes. Let’s considered Ultra Rares of an sort here. Ex’s, Full-Arts, Primes, Secret Rares, Neo Shinings, Crystals, Gold Stars, ect. If a card is “worth” grading. (I see it getting a atleast a Mint 9), then I won’t even sell it, until it gets graded. But, by then I keep atleast one of each for myself and then sell the lower graded ones. Like the Plasma Storm Secret Rare Charizard… I have 7 of them. But, I love the card so much and don’t want to sell them. They would sell at PSA-9’s for about $125-$150 each. But, they are nice collection pieces. I have a hard time selling stuff to begin with…

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I still don’t get your side. You’d feel better if the person was doing what YOU want them to do…like collect what they sell and not just to make money. Well, maybe that person who’s only selling is a single mom trying to pay for their child’s doctor bills. Or a dad trying to be around for their sons sporting matches.
One of eBays biggest Pokemon sellers is a single dad with a daughter who has several health disorders.
It’s just incredulous to me that you can find fault in people simply trying to make an honest living,

I have to assume you just haven’t thought this all the way through.

Well said.

And this is especially true of the winners who are whining about who they took hundreds of dollars from. Those clueless idiots will have a difficult life ahead of them.

Of course they should sell it for a higher price, but I just meant that the only reason the price went up was because other resellers caused the value to go up. I was just speculating a world were no one resold cards and just sort of passed them around without rationalizing reasons to increase the sales price(my definition or reselling), the price wouldn’t go up.

I think you’re misinterpreting my point here Gary.

I don’t care how much people sell. I’m pretty jealous of those who can sell Pokemon cards and make some sort of a living off of it. Those types of people, the Rustys and Scotts of the world, I’m completely fine with. Zero issues whatsoever. My issues are with shady resellers such as Mohsin who don’t have any kind of collection themselves and just resell to make money and seem to have no actual investment in the hobby. Some of the art academy resellers bother me slightly too as I know that many of the winners restricted purchasing to those who wouldn’t resell for profit.

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