Submitters who alter cards should be banned from grading. Middlemen who submit altered cards or offer altering services should be banned from grading.
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If I’m buying blind off eBay for my collection, I will only buy older certs now.
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I agree with the idea of that, I think it def would be easiest on an individual submitter level. The only major problem is false-positives. I know Rusty (TCA Gaming) has had cards kicked backed from PSA marked as altered that were pack fresh. 
So that is the major hurdle.
I still think there would be ways to implement bans from PSA though. At the very least, if an altered card is over a certain dollar value threshold (like the the vintage cards in that video), the submitter should be flagged and put on a list, so that graders know they’ve sent in altered cards before, for all future grading.
The other problem is, people will just start submitting them through GameStop, like the guy in that video mentioned. Makes it harder for PSA to ban a middleman that big. But there are things they can do, I’m sure.
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Sorry to burst all the bubbles here but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again
–> The polishes on the market do not remove scratches or “fill them in”. Nor does it remove print lines.
The product is absolutely crap.
But people who talk about it, such as in posts like this, claiming it’s some cream with nefarious superpowers (without them actually trying themselves) are giving it the BEST marketing - and encourages people to use it.
It only removes dirt, grime and oils that have built up on the cards over the years which does make the Holo shine more (and therefore somewhat tricking graders who aren’t looking carefully) - that’s it.
It won’t bump a card from a 7 with scratches to a 10.
Pack fresh cards are not polished, right? It’s almost always cards that are dirty, have existing surface issues or come from binders.
How can you tell if a card has been polished?
A) sometimes the cards have little white bits on it
B) they stink (the sniff test is real)
But I don’t think they hurt the cards (I have a couple binder cards I tried it on a couple years ago and they are fine) after being thrown in a cupboard in a binder. I have never submitted polished cards for grading.
The bigger issue are cards that are humidity treated, which alters the composition and structure of the cardboard - there are many cases of those cards getting graded and then falling apart in slabs sometime later.
That worries me and im curious if PSA would payout for it (I doubt it).
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this is why they just sell the kurt juice to other ppl and have them submit 
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I am sure they have an internal process to identify and ban people who submit altered cards. Maybe it’s a two strike process or maybe it’s more nuanced than that.
GameStop must obtain submitter’s details before submitting on their behalf. If an order is full of altered cards, I’m sure PSA can ban that user from GameStop middle-manning.
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You’re thinking it’s the same as some car polish.
It’s not.
It’s literally a cleaning agent, it’s just incorrectly called polish.
It doesn’t work as people who promote it (and discuss it in forums) say.
Also conflating humidor treatments and polish is nuts.
They are not even close to the same in terms of changing a card constitution.
I don’t think any of it is right if you’re doing it on cards you intend to sell.
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Imagine the vault claims that will come when people see the soaked repaired card they bought has bubbled and degraded after the initial vault scan
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It won’t if it’s been polished.
Humidity treated? Yes. Definitely a chance at bubbling especially if ex era.
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I don’t think most comments are suggesting cleaned cards are likely to 10, but you can go to the overgraded card thread and find plenty of examples of 10s with scratches and print lines. Not inconceivable that people cleaning cards are trying to trick graders and get 10s by making the cards look better
Most cleaned cards would probably hit a BGS 9.5, though.
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Nice try
This is the main issue. Graders spend 20 seconds on a card. Although any light will show scratches and print lines just the same.
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I can see you’re new, but this has been discussed at length many times before.
There are very real examples of humidity treated cards falling apart in slabs not long after grading.
That’s a real issue.
The polish is useless product with marginal benefit but thankfully doesn’t seem to damage the card (on the couple raw cards i tested it on).
I suggest you try the product you are promoting (without intending to).
The Raichu is a pack fresh Holo I pulled from a pack a couple years ago. I can tell you there is no “Holo layer reduction” on it, nor has it bubbled or changed in any way. It’s been literally in a cupboard as part of my shadowless binder set.
The print lines are still very very apparent.
Thanks for your concern.
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What surprised me a lot was all the positive comments under the restoration videos. For some reason the algorithm decided to throw a bunch of them into my feed and outside of E4, people think it’s a good thing.
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A few months ago I noticed a batch of WoTC holos I bought from somebody smelled awful. Not your typical cigarette or wet cellar stench, they smelled almost like a chemical sewage. Now it could of been a natural occurrence or it could of been kurt’s cream, who knows lol. It’s hard to describe what they smelled like but Im glad someone else mentioned something.
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Yeah, most people either don’t know it is frowned upon in certain collectible spaces, or they view it as a way to make money by “repairing” and regrading. I know with vintage coins, people who just don’t know any better will often do the same thing 
They immediately clean any old coins they find. Only later to discover that drastically hurts the value.
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I watched the Rockets Mewtwo repair video and the product used to “remove” scratches is kurt recovery not polish, based on the description in kurt website I’m assuming it indeed works similarly to car polish or plastx.
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It’s probably just diluted plastx 
. Sad to see how this stuff actually gets positive responses on YT
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Bro fell for the hype videos.
Express shipped some Kurt’s Card Splooge, cracked some 7s and auto altered.
You love to see it. lmao
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can auth guarentee reject based on smell 
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Because you’re the one making claims that it can do things that it can’t, and you’re also linking directly to buy it. 
I’m trying to discouraged it by saying I’ve tried ur, and it’s a waste of money.
Newsflash, a LOT of people have tried this stuff but most will not admit to it.
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