Raffle

[jcincy101]

@marco

@smpratte

Raffles are similar to fake cards; you have to ignore obvious problems in order to accept them.

When I want to buy a card, I just go on ebay, find the card and make the purchase. There isn’t another interpretation, chance, or possibility; it’s completely straight forward.

Raffles are truly not about the product; they are selling loss. The product is used to allure people to buy nothing. Majority of the participants get nothing. Similar to a pyramid scheme.

I see your video about raffle! Good video!

From video: “I can’t afford to buy…NUMEROUS bugattis”

Nice

[smpratte]

@jcincy101

@marco

I see your video about raffle! Good video!

From video: “I can’t afford to buy…NUMEROUS bugattis”

Nice

[martincollects]

I loved this video! So many hilarious moments and also dropping some real truth about entitlement that people need to hear!
Watched it three times already

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L9bLtsgpQs

[chrispy]

@null_user

My friend deals in Harrison Ford autographs. The other day he put up one of his auto’s on a Facebook Group raffle.

I told him that the Pokemon card community looks down on raffles and think it’s a scummy practice.

He asked me why, but I didn’t really have a good reason. His argument was was that someone could pay $20 and get an $800 item in return. Yeah, it’s a gamble, but a 1/60 chance is a lot better odds than a state lottery or Vegas. No one is forcing anyone to partake in these raffles, and the collective price per ticket pays for the item being raffled.

So are the people against Pokemon raffles against gambling in general? I agree it’s not the best way to spend your money, but for some people, this may be their only opportunity to get a big ticket item. And I’m not talking about people who ‘fix’ their raffles to get a predetermined winner, but legit raffles with actual random numbers and random winners.

The problem isn’t that it’s illegal (who fucking cares, weed is illegal too), it’s that it’s easy to rig, manipulate, scam people. There is no way to regulate it, so while it seems like it could be fun and you have a 1 in x chances of winning, the reality often is that you have a zero chance in winning. You have a better chance of winning a ring toss hosted by the end boss carnie at the traveling circus.

[charizandrew]

@martincollects agreed, it needed to be said. Also, I thought the first minute was pretty funny.

[kaldoverde]

Just saw Scott’s video and absolutely agree with what is said. Especially the self-entitlement part.

We are lucky enough to be in a hobby which allows each collector to aim for different tiers depending on income level, so I fail to see a benefit or a logical reason to buy into these raffles.

Raffles inevitably create a ‘feel bad’ emotion on the majority of participants and that, on its own, has the potential to deter future collectors from engaging seriously with the hobby.

Being an optimist though, I think this will be a self-resolving issue. Firstly, because it won’t take too long for this market to be riddled with scammer buyers, taking up several spots and disputing transactions after failing to win the draw. Secondly because even non-scamming buyers will probably be dismaied after losing enough raffles and end up reporting sellers to paypal.

Once these practices become commonplace, raffling will be so risky for sellers that it will come to a natural halt and peace will be restored.

[KingPokemon]

Raffle hosters are ALL thieving garbage and participants are ignorant losers. Simple as that.

[KingPokemon]

Just watched Scott’s video. Great job.
The part where he mentions needing to win one raffle in order to win a spot into a second raffle reminds me of what we do in poker tournaments. The World Series of poker is a $10,000.00 buy-in event. For those who can’t or don’t want to pay that much they will join what’s called “satellite” tournaments in advance which are hosted by casinos all over the place. You may have 10 players put up $1,000.00 each and the one winner gets the 10k buy-in to the World Series.
Now unlike the raffles, these aren’t scams.

On a side note, I played in 3 of the championships and cashed only once in the first one I played. That year I was busted out by “The Kid” Stu Ungar who went on to win that year (I think 1979 or 1980).