SMPratte also went over this with his own collection on his YouTube . BGS 9 and 10s are the only ones that stand true in competition next to PSA. Everything after BGS 9 is a complete grey area and most times not even close to what you’d expect it to grade at. Really it all comes down to the fact that they are two different grading companies and PSA has a lot more experience on there belt with Pokemon TCG.
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Buy the card, not the grade?
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Of the 4 sub-categories BGS uses, they are WAY too forgiving on edges. Even at a 9 they are really bad about grading that aspect of a card.
Every good-looking BGS card I have ever seen had at least a 9.5 on the edges category, I wouldn’t buy anything lower. And for a PRISTINE 10 I would hesitate to buy one if the 9.5 grade was for edges.
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No matter what you want to discuss or point out it’s always going to be BGS 10>PSA 10 for the premium. Mainly because 9/10 BGS 10’s will be in better condition than PSA 10’s. The tittle in the thread should’ve been BGS 10 VS PSA 10 to begin with. Discussing issues about everything else under those grades is redundant really. I’m sure no one out there is contemplating buying a BGS 7 knowing that they’re pointing out more flaws aside of it already not being Mint. Whereas PSA just gives out a simple grade to avoid those subconscious imperfections also known as sub-grades; so sure a PSA 7 leaves a hesitant mind at ease. But if a collector is ready to go master level he or she will go Hunt out a 10 quality card. Let’s say he or she searches up a PSA 10 Charizard for 20k$ but it has silvering and seems to be a bit off center versus the BGS 10 that is perfectly centered and has no silvering with a 9.5 centering subgrade for $30k. Which one is he or she going to buy? I wouldn’t go for the PSA 10 knowing that I’m being deceived when at least the BGS 10 let’s me know what’s up plus it’s in better condition. He or she is most likely going to cash out on the BGS 10. If I was to be wrong or in the eyes of PSA enthusiast, “trolling”, Gary would have never attempted to crossover his PSA Charizard’s over to BGS.
I don’t know why you only want to focus on the two highest grades. 80% of cards won’t get these grades, a lot wont get these grades coming straight from packs, and there’s many people that can’t afford to buy these grades on some sets. I find that every one of your points about BGS vs PSA is about the top grades, but you can’t use the top grades alone. That’s the fundamental flaw in your argument. Everyone agrees that BGS 10 > PSA 10. That’s not a debate, it’s now been proven not only in the quality of the card, but it’s finally showing in the market as well. It’s the entire company as a whole that you need to take into consideration.
As far as subgrades goes it’s completely opinion based. I know a lot of people like that they can view subgrades, but I find that actually is a flaw in the system. Without them you can view the card in as a whole, while with subgrades your being forced to focus in on one issue even though the entire card could be perfect minus that issue. I’m not saying this is good or bad, I’m just using my personal opinion. I recognize that there’s benifits to subgrades as well, in that you can easily disect what prevented a specific grade.
We’re not talking about what grades cards will get out the pack. We’re talking about why BGS is getting a premium. And what cards are getting a premium if not BGS tens and PSA tens?
The premium they’re talking about is why does a BGS outperform a PSA in the same grade. The answer is they don’t. The only thing that outperforms PSA 10 is BGS 10. Every other grade PSA gets a premium, or outperforms, BGS.
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Exactly my point…?
I know it’s your point. My disagreement is when you take a thread titled "PSA vs BGS (why is BGS gettign a premium???) you don’t get to focus on BGS 10 and PSA 10. You need to give the full answer:
PSA > BGS; however, BGS 10 > PSA 10
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The title also asks should we be buying BGS? The answer is yes, BGS 10’s. You really want to concentrate on everything below 10’s?..for what? Any grade below a 10 is not earning a premiums, PSA or BGS; which really is the main part of the question, the PREMIUM part.
You’re focusing too much on the symantics of premium. In context it’s clear premium is synonymous to outperform. AKA this thread is a comparison of PSA and BGS. Change the thread OP to include outperform and maybe it’ll be more clear:
PSA vs BGS (why is BGS ourperforming???)
If PSA is the collecting/grading standard for Pokemon, why are BGS cards outperforming? Should we be purchasing BGS?
Now answer the question in whole, no. We shouldn’t be buying BGS over PSA when we’re talking about the same grade. The only exeption to this rule is BGS 10.
If you don’t want to agree with this interpretation of symantics fine. I really have no more interest in this conversation anyway as we’re not actually debating anything. It’s just a clarification of our interpretations of the words.
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Agreed.
'Till later.
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this look like giving to you? PSA gives 10s to cards with silvering, bgs will never in a million years allow this. but a bgs edge is pure not a spec in site. Ive seen quite a few psa 10s have silvering, but bgs wont allow this on there 10 subgrade, and pretty much non existant on there 9.5 edges to. ALTHOUGH the silvering is minimal on some psa 10, it is still there and on psa website they do say there is always a flaw with a card, so to the grader and to me ide still say it is gem mint, but its not pristine! I Do feel they really strongly grade some sets more like the 1st ed base set english and shadowless english… IVE yet to see a 1st ed shadowless holo with silvering like the JUNGLE cards ive seen as psa 10 with silvering. The BGS 9 subgrade is something that i wouldnt want to deal with as it would have similar problems on par with some weak psa 9 and it would be noticable. I myself have owned several psa 10 with silvering all along the boarders, its like gliscening all around but not to noticable. Ide say those psa 10s would get 9.5 at bgs, but they would not hit the pristine gold label. Depending on how thick the gliscening is on the edges it will probably hit a 9 subgrade on edges at bgs. Ive seen psa 10s with thicker silvering, like on a jungle psa 10 vaporeon i owned. However im not sure if that comes down to purely the edges grade when talking about silvering, if it is what they see as partly a surface issue, then errrrrrrrrrrrrrr i dunno how it works… Again though psa allows for factory flaws on there psa 10 if they deem it gem mint looking and not taking off the pleasurerb to the eye, so cards with silvering that are psa 10 are probably highly graded on the otherb subgrades. You can never compare a bgs 8 subgrade to a 9 or 9.5 as there is a huge difference… YOU have to understand that there 8 is not as high on the RICTORSCALERB as psa’s 8… WHere talking 4 grades below there top grade if were not going on point grades compared to PSA’s 2 grades below there top, so yes it will most likely look like a psa 6… I do feel like they should take more pryde in there psa 8 label though as it is a silver label… Which causes this thing were people think of it in comparison to psa and go… aaaaaaaaaaaahhh well there 9 and 9.5 must be shit if this is. But the difficulty in reaching these higher subgrades is extreme and quite dramatic and tiz not that simple. I wouldnt be buying any bgs 8s though… IDE take a psa 8 anyday. Ide take a psa 9 over 90% of bgs mint 9 unless the bgs 9 has high subgrades as bgs 9 with high subgrades have a chance at crossing to a psa 10. As seen with multiple examples now, like the shadowless bgs 9 charizard that was crossed over to a 10 recently… TAKE that example of that card and think of that for a minute, this is exactly what im going on about. The difference is huge and its a reason to stand clear from bgs 8 and never put it in the same legue as bgs 9, 9.5, 10 ect.
TRUST ME DUDE… BGS ARE NOT FORGIVING LIKE YOU THINK. I usually see these kind of comments coming from people who do not own or grade with bgs, and only grade and own psa cards. If you dont believe, me then give it a shot. SEND that alakazam no rarity psa 10 i sold you to bgs and see what you get. You will get a 9.5 most likely. There is a reason why not many grade with bgs, the truth hurts but is down to one simple factithon… IF you grade with bgs, you will own no 10s. But were seeing a change now, people are paying a shit ton more for a 9.5 then they are for a psa 9. Shadowless zards selling for 8k at a 9.5 and psa 9 shadowless zard at 1k… IF those subgrades where higher ide say it would fetch close to the same price as a psa 10! Ide much rather have a 9.5 collection then a psa 9 collection, however im not going to give false hope… Dont believe that all your psa 9s are going to hit a bgs 9.5 because it aint gonna happen. Your strong 9s might though! If i was grading base set 1st ed shadowless and shadowless fresh from the pack, ide be sending to bgs and not psa to try and hit that pristine 10, as thats the only way imo… I DONT really see anything of 1st ed or shadowless holo wise up on ebay ever that is worthy of pristine candidatism. and barely any with 9.5 candidatism.
Thing is… every time I look at these dam corners.
and den i take a look over at da centeringston grade
and den… Im like. hey bgs you did the exact same thing to my perfection, but i aint even mad 
Thing is… Im not sure how they look into things when grading japanese cards compared to english cards… BUT i see a fair few people mentioning they have problems with the english side of things from there perspective since they started showing up on PWCC, but I believe that is probably more down to frustration of the prices. ITS extremely difficult to get these high subgrades and not really heard of either way and its dangerous to say that there to lenient, because that gives false hope and is more anecdotal if anything. AS the word keeps coming up when we mention PSA… THE GREATEST WORD OF THEM ALL!! anecdotal!!!
Whenever in doubt… Just think of this word xD
Nah but seriously guys… I believe your face is anecdotal 
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I agree with everything except 9/10 BGS 10s will be better than PSA 10s. Actually, it should be 99/100 lol.
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Or 9.9/10 
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We need a picture of you making this face. Overly attached (to BGS) syndicate. Maybe photoshop some syndiflamz spouting out.
But seriously I have plans to send a lot of PSA 9’s over to BGS to try and understand what exactly the cards require to become 9.5 I have very little experience as I have only owned a few. BGS 9.5 as you said garners a crap ton more dollans than PSA 9 in some cases. Perhaps I will collect a PSA 9 and a BGS 9.5 set for myself depending on the set. I do like the BGS cases and mainly the subgrades.
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My extreme bias is definitely invisible to all 
especially @selodin I definitely keeping my cool everytime someone spoke blaspheemestons on the forum towards bgstons.
Yea ide be going for a bgs 9.5 set… Im actually happy to have all of english as bgs 9.5 to untill i hit pristine.
But i think there is a fair few mint 9s out there that can hit the 9.5 BUt there isnt extreme amounts of data to make sure of this, because not many have attempted it with large volumeton… maybe youll be the first and we can see better un ancedotal picturerb