what did you expect as the resolution? PSA reversing time?
It’s crazy but why do i have to report it myself for them to acknowledge that it even happened in the first place.
After all that, i can’t trust that it conveniently happened post grading and at a time where they can claim it was an 8 to now still an 8.
I see only benefits for them to say it happened post grading.
Note: the sketchy part is that they updated the scans of the same card.. after i reported it.
Idk im just mad.
I forgot to say that their first response was them not even acknowledging it in the first place and referenced the wrong “dot” even though in my initial report with customer service, they did.
Yeah I’m not defending PSA. I simply stated that the difference in the “80% smaller spec” is more likely to be a scanner artifact than PSA altering your card.
You changed the thread title from “Did PSA alter my card?”, which is what people were replying to. No one posted an opinion on whether the damage was caused by PSA. It was assumed by the context. You framed the thread asking if they made the dot shrink via alteration.
It sucks that it happened. I agree with the assessment that it’s an 8 whether or not the spec is there but it can’t hurt to try to get more since they did screw up and actually admit it.
PSA should always refund in full value (or more) not just the difference for any card damage that should occur. I cannot think of any worst nightmare as a collector than a third party damaging your card.
What prevents them from doing that ? I don’t think it’s about the money, because it represents barely anything at their size, so it must be some legal or fraud consideration ?
I’m basically getting nothing lol
That front and back centering is an auto-8 in my experience.
Not trying to be a dick or anything, but that’s an 8 on centering alone. Can be the cleanest card and still get an 8 if it’s that off center. It maybe didn’t present with the wear you would expect on an 8 before the ding, but the current wear is well within boundary of an 8. Centering and wear don’t work as a multiplier, it’s not like 8 wear and 8 centering results in a 6.5 grade or something. It definitely sucks because it did go from an incredible 8 to a really mid/low 8, so I feel bad for ya!
Lol I love this forum 
guy comes desperate about PSA damaging his card. Gets dumped on for his raichu being a weak copy anyway 
I though I was an elitist I need to up my game for E4
Multiple members showed sympathy for the damage/situation. No one is dumping on the card. It’s possible acknowledge that PSA should not be damaging cards while simultaneously being realistic that in this case the damage probably wouldn’t change the grade.
Pretty much the reason why i didn’t want to respond and try to convince everyone. I mean imagine if it was their card.. but yea no one cares.
You said it yourself, you’re just mad.
Take emotion out of it and it seems like they are offering you pretty much the difference to the most recent 9 sale, which this card 100% would not have acheived higher than that.
Yes I understand you’re frustrated / upset that you had to initiate contact to get a solution, but realistically this is just a mistake. A mistake happened and someone missed it. A small white spec? your card wasn’t dropped. Could literally be the slightest brush on old card stock on an area which is weakened.
70k cards graded a day, things are bound to slip through.
When you say “now what” what do you want? What do you see as a fair solution here I’m curious.
It’s almost like we were all missing details at the time of your post and could only speculate as to what happened. Imagine that.
I think people would actually empathize more if you weren’t taking out your frustration at people that were giving opinions you asked for. Instead of sharing your story and using it as a productive way to rightfully criticize PSA, you’ve used it as some weird gotcha moment on people that contributed to the thread.
we can see your edits
Umm recent 9 is at $3k-5k.
It was 1 sentence that no one has moved on from.
I guess it’s ok that psa damages a card if it’s still the samae grade. Thanks for the help everyone 
I’ll just move on
What would you have wanted PSA to do.. I am curious what resolution would have made you happy? (Honest Question)
The reality is you handle enough cards you are going to damage some.. This goes for all grading companies and people.. I’ve nicked cards handling them before. ITs going to happen.
Mike
i don’t think this is an acceptable stance. The number one priority when you send a collectible to a grading company is that they dont damage it, only then after they authenticate it, and only then after they can grade it. This is the order and the first one is non negociable id like to think
We as customers should do everything to make them accountable, and them as a company should do everything in their power for this kind of thing to never happen. that’s not something that can simply be brushed off the shoulder like that I think
I mean, it might have been acceptable 10 years ago, but nowadays card collectibles can be high end assets, so the inside circuits and process should reflect that and not stay at a amateurish level.
I was watching an inside tour of Valcambi factory (a certified gold ingots maker)
litteraly dealing with gold bar worth millions, they check underneath the fingernails to make sure their employees cannot steal gold.
i expect the same level of paranoia and strict processes down the road for a grading company
Not everything is some crazy conspiracy. They damaged the card slightly, admitted to it then paid out the customer. I’m not sure what else you’d like done in this situation.
They grade 60-80K cards a day. It’s just Murphy’s Law man. It’s literally impossible to not screw something up 100% of the time in any field.
Only admitted to it after i reported it then found nothing after the review even though i stated it in a phone call. Not talking about conspiracy, just pure accountability and not trying to give me the short end of the stick.
This is conflict of interest in QA, loss of cross grading rights (after damage), and capped potential.
$80 payout yay
I mean if the card was worth 10s of thousands more, would ppl care more? Literally a booster pack to pull this card is “worth more”.