I don’t see how they are going to track this. I think they are both going to fight it and say the cost to collect the data is burdensome or their current programs doesn’t allow them to collect that data. Without them handing over the data not sure how the government will collect the data.
Then if Australia bans both of them they will complain to The Trumpster (not sure why his name gets changed if i use his normal name) that Australia is anti free trade and that this is just a tax for foreign sellers. Then The Trumpster will tweet some stuff about Australia and some stupid stuff will happen. Some crazy stuff you can’t make up.
Unless you are shipping over containers of stuff and use brokerages I just see this being a voluntary tax.
For example Ami Ami. They will easily hit that limit monthly if not weekly. But it is going to be spread over 1,000 packages or something like that. They sure as hell aren’t going to be having a guy look for Ami Ami packages and start adding up the total every day.
If thats true this really is going to wind up an absolute goat fuck. Can u imagine them trying to enforce processing fees on people who have bought a $3 item from china or wherever.
Let’s just wait and see. My understanding is that it the law isn’t final (even though 1 July is just around the corner) but i’m praying that if GST is applicable, that at least the processing fee is minimal.
The Worst case scenario would involve aussies being restricted from using eBay, Amazon international maybe even Yahoo Japan (as in, no aussie IP address can view those site or engage with sellers on it) and therefore us having barely any options for collecting going forward unless we use a VPN and negotiate privately. Bay have directly made these threats.
Any ways i’ve grabbed the pop corn, there are so many variables at play and we really don’t know what is going to happen, however fingers are crossed!
wait a sec… theres not going to be a 150 process fee on all yahoo japan orders or something
I cant be having 150 dollar process fees on each order in the mail. That isnt possible. If they try to do this, I will burn them. I will find there location. This is dictatory as fuq.. You cant stop people from trade. It wont work, and it wont last.
I guess the only way going forward will be to ship with a private company like UPS,FEDEX,DHL ect once every 3 months and have a trusty brother in the u.s to recieve and do this for you. HI HI garinson/smpratte IF theres no way around the fee of 150 per package theres going to be no other way… ALso Wouldnt going through the private company like fed ex ect, remove the processing fee. I dunno… There should be a way some how to get past this mess.
I love to recieve my mail, I dont want to recieve it every 1-3 months that is shite. the 10% thing IS not to bad.. like its bad, but its managablez but.. A 150 fee on every single friggen piece of mail.. -----------______------------
@ozenigma Im just wondering were you got this 150 from.. WHere does it say 150. This will not be possible. they cant stop every package for 150, like you said it wont work. The public will go nuts.
Cross my fingers allright PUNKSTERs.. Ill be crossing my fingers like this and drilling a new asshole in the australian senate. I have packages all the time, aint nobody putting processing fees of 150 on each one unless they want sh*t to come out of places they cant imagine (ง’̀-'́)ง
Fingdrs definitely crossed. We will be allowed to buy cards with no gst or processing fees if the person selling to us makes a revenue that is under 75,000 when selling to Australians. So buying off an efour member or certain US sites will be business as usual and you can order as many packages however the government is being a bitch and treating ebay as one store rather than treating each individual seller as their own, its discriminatory and plain wrong.
but how about yahoo japan. they make way more then 75,000 does that mean every dam package i get from them will be process fee for 150 bucks? There not going to treat yahoo japan as a total of one i hope.. wth
But I guess basically the way around this is to just have everything shipped to an american lol, somebowdie you can trust like smprattican or garinson… and just have them ship everyhting to you for x amount of dollans.
garinson and smprattican you guys could make trillions now off our australian misery.
15 pounds on a 20 pound item is different to $150 for customs just to release your stuff.
I almost hope these services give australia the big middle finger and tell us to fuck off with our nonsense requests considering we are so much smaller on a global scale than we think. That will really help harvey norman sell more fridges. Then hopefully us peasants give the big middle finger to our retail sector and refuse to spend disposable income on dumb stuff and share fridges with our neighbours if we have to. Then our economy would go into recession cos no one is spending money and the government can go and deal with that while everyone blames them for the chaos and gives them the middle finger.
I’ve mentioned this before and I’m hesitant to go into too much detail about this issue because a few things;
We still don’t know how this new style tax will be collected.
The current system won’t allow for tax collection in the same process.
Basically the way it works currently is this.
You buy an item worth over the $1,000 threshold.
Item gets shipped to you.
Customs notices the declared value.
Customs hands the package to a third party to process and collect taxes from. A citizen cannot engage customs themselves.
A third party invoices you for the charge as well as their processing fees.
That’s how the process works, but obviously many items get through the net. If you want more info, it’s on the Aussie customs page.
People are so hellbent on this $150 charge because I mentioned it in one specific example I gave that happened to a mate. All different items are processed differently. Get the $150 out of your thoughts until we have examples post 1 Jul 17.
So the 150 is just an example, and not actual figure of buying 30 dollar - 50 dollar - 300 dollar packages ect. or 20 dollar packages with a 150 thing… Cause that is just nuts.
We cant alow this dictatory harveyshitman corporate overlord asstank cockarms stop small peasants like myself from doing business.
I will shoot them.
I will be sharing my fridge with you snap. were are you located. If our fridge breaks, we will get one shipped to smprattican and he can forward us it for value as gift and -0.01 cents decalred value.
Screw the liberal party, and screw the labour party for backing this shite. I will burn them, and throw things like the broken fridge at them (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I accidentally went over $1000 AUD after converting from USD the other week. Something like $17 AUD dollars over the limit. Cost me $200 to get the package. Crazy.
@smpratte bowing down to you Sir, as you may just be a saviour during the dark times that are to come. Hopefully i will not have to bug you too often, however it is a peace of mind knowing i have a shoulder to lean on if need be *tear trickles down cheek*
Thats right. The main point is that costs for this arw huge because the money collection is done through a third party or middleman who have to take there cut
Yeah were gonna pay the middle man at yahoo to middle man, then the governments gonna middle man the middle man of yahoo, and then the third party is gonna middle man the middled item thats been middled twice already. Bringing it to a total of 3 people middling our shit before we aloud to recieve it. And people call this a free country/world? Nothings free, and if it is then your probably the product.
The reason i initially asked was because i planned to make 50 odd separate one dollar or so purchases from china just to clog their system. However if they can charge and i am legally liable to pay fees for every package as opposed to them just being able to destroy them after a timeframe, it may not be a good idea.
@snap@pokemonsyndicate@ozenigma@shizzlemetimbers@williamcoolman & all you other Aussies out there. Rejoice!!! GST on imports extended until July 1 2018. by then they will probably scrap it all or atleast not make ebay apart of it and only apply it to sellers who legitimately do turnover 75,000
IF theres no way around the fee of 150 per package theres going to be no other way… ALso Wouldnt going through the private company like fed ex ect, remove the processing fee. I dunno… There should be a way some how to get past this mess.
Bringing it to a total of 3 people middling our shit before we aloud to recieve it. And people call this a free country/world? Nothings free, and if it is then your probably the product.