PSA Error Recognition - No Damage Ninetales

I don’t know how to do an online petition but maybe e4 should take this on and do it. Scott could be instrumental in achieving this and then, if successful, he could do a video on the process.

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Not sure since I did it through Scott’s grading service. It’s really whatever he chose to put for it. I don’t blame him either way. I had no idea they did not recognize it when I sent it over to him.

All the thumbs up for this! Help make it happen @smpratte!

On another note, is this a problem because they don’t know the cards origin??? I know no one can figure out where it originated. We just know a bunch of people have it, but no confirmation on it being in a theme deck or a booster pack or both. Is that the issue that PSA has?

I’m guessing they have evidence of blastoise being an error from sheets and such? Either way, evidence is overwhelming that it is a well known and accepted error card, so it shouldn’t matter.

All cards are from sheets.

My apologies, I meant there have been no stage blastoises on uncut sheets (I think). I feel like I’ve seen a video where someone showed it off on an uncut sheet, but now I’m doubting myself… My point is that no one has an uncut sheet with a no damage ninetales or video evidence of pulling one. That’s all I was really getting at, but regardless I’m for a petition. I already sent an email to that PSA rep.

I will post once i get mine in to see if they did grade it, it was marked as a normal copy

It’s pretty crappy how they are handling this :slightly_frowning_face: I called again to ask why the decided all of a sudden to stop and they said they aren’t grading them and won’t authenticate them but won’t give a straight answer to why. Just that it’s their choice.

Is Scott on vacation?

My latest message to Rene:

Hi Rene. First off, I wanted to make sure you rec’d my below message.
Also, wanted to add a question. What does research need exactly?
Please get right back to me cause the whole community is concerned and
deserves full disclosure as well as exact instructions on how to reverse your
confusing decision.
Gary.

I just saw his latest youtube video for the black star promos. Love that set, but I’m sure he’s just busy. Seems like something fun for him to sink his teeth into, so I’m sure he’ll comment soon.

By the way, I emailed that one PSA rep, but haven’t called yet. I’ll get to it tomorrow I think.

PSA’s Research department reached out to me about the card. I explained it is real, gave them photos of the error and standard version. Hopefully it will be entered into their database!

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Call them back and tell them about inverted WB error cards.

Scott to the rescue! Surely it will be cleared up now. It is a very cool and unique card and like the other similar error cards out there they create a niche group of cards for people to collect.

I have two immediate reactions.
Yay, they might actually acknowledge it.
Yikes, it appears their research consists of reaching out to one person to confirm or deny its authenticity after years of missing it in submissions and authenticating it anyways. I’m hoping there’s more depth to it.

As it stands this doesn’t give me more confidence that a card in a PSA case is authentic.

You’re assuming they only reached out to one person.

Which is why I said “it appears” and “I’m hoping there’s more depth to it.” :wink:

Is this really the first instance where PSA is asking about the card though or getting an opinion? Is this really the first time in 20 years that we as a community are asking why not? Seems a bit odd to me that only now are they considering this. It’s a 1000 dollar card as a PSA 9 lol

But it doesn’t really appear that way. We have one data point to refer to and no knowledge of their other contacts or research. Although one of the best interjections, the “yikes”/scandalized reaction is unwarranted.

@e2d2 I understand what you’re saying and perhaps I could have had a better choice of words but based on the time line of events I still have an uneasy feeling about the process they use for authenticating it and that comes from the time line of events and quoted statements from them. Here are a few in chronological order:
-Numerous cards are authenticated over a span of years.
-Publications are made in SMR noting the card and its sold prices.
-Their research department decides there is not sufficient information available to verify the error at this time.
-Scott receives an inquiry about the card.
I don’t wish to explain any further or argue my point more. I’m glad progress is being made and that Scott has such a relationship where they consult with him. For their own sake I just hope they don’t rely on one expert opinion when forming conclusions.

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