Interesting… although they are stating it is considered the rarest card which is obviously wrong information…
I wonder for how much other cards would sell on HA that are even rarer than the Illustrator. Like the Neo trophy cards from 2001 with the winners photo on the card or amy SSB/TMB
one sold for 13-15k on that wierd website. or 18k. or what ever the hell it was… was that you who bought it? And is this that copy?
ALong with 3 1998 copies that sold for 3-4k each.
I dont understand why your auctioning it on that shithole website though were nobody looks pokemonwise xD
Why does it say the rarest… The 1997 pikas are much rarer. When I read the description I thought, This wouldnt be smprattes because he knows its not as rare as the 1997 pikas. Thats right smprattican, Im calling you out… You cant escape from my questions 
TBH id probably write the rarest in the world xD Like… I dont think anyone whos going to buy this card wouldnt know about the other trophies, or atleast whilst bidding go and read about the tingz.
Maybe if your talking about PSA 9 terms of rarity… Then there is only what? like 2 copies of this. So in grading terms its definitely one of the rarest.
I think people that use the site in general are going to be more in the market for the card hence why it’s no on ebay.
Probably because they are the biggest overall collectibles auction house. It can be better to sell on the site that has the buyers with deep pockets over the site with more collectors for that item. They have tons of buyers who won’t even blink at dropping 10k on something that catches their eye.
There are a lot of very rich people collecting stuff, you just gotta get their eyeballs. I used to be a huge Golden Age comic collector, well I hugely loved Golden Age books, my collection was unfortunately not that huge. But I remember from collecting comics there were some very famous and just very rich people who were buying books, as in they were making like 10-100 mill a year income people.
Fun Fact- did you know there is a Superman reference in every single episode Seinfeld.
Now imagine he wanted your card. Pretty sure he would be sending an intern to buy something only worth say 50k, probably saves 10k alone by paying for economy over first class.
There are a lot of collectors out there with this kind of worth, if you can hype the item and convince them to buy it, BANG new world record set and the buyer sticks it in a vault beside his other trophies.
If you have a top tier item probably a good place to try to sell it. Guessing there is also a reserve price set, so the item may not sell.
yeah i figured it might be a high end place.
But when i searched pokemoons there was nothing. 
i shall have all the poke trophies muhahaha. Ill get em ungraded though xD
I couldn’t agree more. This is honestly something I dislike about the card being auctioned on there. Some ricch guy that’s not even interested in Pokemon might bid $200k on it, just because he likes having “the rarest” of something. The price for the illustrator has been inflated since 18 years now and it keeps going.
I would bet my life that anyone who bought an illustrator for $50k didn’t know much about pokemon cards or hasn’t been collecting for long. Just a rich person who doesn’t mind overpaying a few ten thousands $.
Once you get into areas like this its more about how badly you want it than how valuable it is.
For regular eBay card auctions, heck even for some trophy cards, you can pass on it with the logic that “one will come up again” or “I can get it for a better price somewhere else.” Can’t do that with the Illustrator. (unless you’re Scott)
If some big investor or uber-rich collector decides they want it, I wouldn’t be surprised at 60-65k. If not, I anticipate a significant price drop. Its all about getting that high-end market.
Any high end card sold on any japanese site is not an open market sale. If you can’t simply type “pokemon illustrator” in english you are cutting out majority of the market. The cards are also ungraded on japanese sites. There is no Pokemon card more forged than the illustrator. Selling it ungraded at this point is beyond risky. Also, This card goes well beyond Pokemon. Similar to major rookie cards.
Ebay or a site like this (Heritage) is an open market sale. Something that will actually be visible to majority of the consumers. Not to be confused with a site that you have to use japanese text, a middleman, and is not visible for majority of the market. Siting a sale of an old booster box you found at your local hobby shop is not the fair market value. The most recent authentic illustrators both sold above 40k. The 50k price I mentioned was via ebay (open market) and was in a smaller market than today. The first ever open market auction of the card was in the year 2000, it earned $22,000 and some change.
In relation to the rarity fallacy, simply no, something like a neo trophy will be more of a risk. However, I do think the main 3 trophies: ssb, tmb and pika, especially 1997 would do well because of their rarity + notoriety + history + more sales activity = more inertia. There is more to value/potential value than simply rarity. Also, most people mean “value” when they say “rare”. Considering the price tag, the fiscal reality of someone truly owning this card is genuinely rarer than any other card.
Either way, this is a historic moment for pokemon. It only helps the hobby.
I will get 3 of these just to proove to you that 1997 pika is genuinely rarer than any other card being owned, including the illustrator. Ive decided - New life goal. Destroy smprattican, Defeat him, proove him wrong, and take over the universe (づ￣ ³￣)づ
By then the sale will long be over, at which point the point being proven shall cease to matter, and my wallet will be destroyed but still
In the midst of this… I hope the pika sells for 100,000 so then this way the prices soar!!! Still it wont save anyone from the reality that the 1997 pika is rarer and more valuebel… Ive decided.
Did a PSA 9 Illustrator really sell for $90K? Was that Scott’s?
I highly doubt and even if, there is no proof for this sale. But it’s easy saying an item sold for X amount and make people who don’t know amything abou this item bid more… this is getting beyond ridiculous and this sale will not be good for the hobby, it will destroy it. People with a lot of funds who think they can make a profit will bid up prices for trophy cards… soon nobody of our forum will be able to buy trophy cards anymore, unless we have some millionaire here of course.
Call me pessimist but you will see that I’m right. It’s better if pokemon card collecting stays a hobby for pokemon fans and not just investors.
Every single person I sold this card to is a genuine Pokémon collector. It is pathetic that I even have to state this point. Complaining about a price someone is willing to pay is purely juvenile.
If you don’t like the fair market value of an item, that is entirely your problem. Complaining that a Base Set 1st ed box is 10k instead of the original $100 price tag is simply the market.
I’m thinking the same. After all demand makes the price. If all trophy cards are bought up from investors and taken to ridicoulus prices they won’t find anyone to buy them. And I highly doubt some big investor will buy pokemon cards if they can do way higher margins with properties and such.
Might need to clarify that me saying people paying so high prices must be investors or rich kids is pure speculation as i do not know all of the illustrator owners. And I couldnt be more happy for trophy cards being sold for higher prices as I have one of the biggest trophy card collections (this is not a fact but pure speculation from my side as i do not know all collectors in the world).
What sets me off is that there have been certain people in the past stating there are only 4 or 6 copies of the illustrator in the world. Basically it was those famous pokemon sellers back in the day that spread this information and i have never heard anybody saying there are more than 10 copies until like 2 years ago when we started seeing more copies and did more research here on the forum.
So my point is: the illustrator has always sold for the highest prices (fact). There has been misinformation about the rarity (fact)–> (rarity defined as the number of cards in existence, hence the chance that another copy would pop up again)
I think the two facts above are highly correlated (speculation/personal opinion).
Trust me, alternative investments such as art and collectibles are getting more and more attention from investors as it is hard to get good margins from “normal” investments. A lot of hedge fund managers are art collectors. But I doubt a hedge fund manager sees a picasso for hundred millions solely as collectible and not as investment (speculation)
This is very exciting indeed, I can see this getting $65,500 but who knows, auctions on cards this rare are not easily predictable.
Hopefully the publicity from this sale will have an effect on the market that increases prices on lots of other cards.
19.5% buyers premium and 15% sellers fee. DAMN Heritage be raking it in, and people complain about eBay’s fees. Not saying that I think Heritage’s are high for what they offer, just a funny tie in to the complaints of 10%.
This would be such a great piece for advertisement now that I think about it. Besides website traffic I plan on setting up as a vendor for future events that allow it such as Regionals, I’d imagine advertising that I have the card at my booth would bring a lot of attention and opportunity for us to make others aware of our presence.
You’re only a bid away *wink wink*
I’m just saying now I think this may blow us away with how high it goes. I think my guess that I sent in to Gary was a little low.
It’s already at 20k.