This already happens with sports cards. 1979 Gretzky is the best example:

This is what a wire cut card with 45 year old card stock looks like straight from a pack. This was also a “modern” card when grading began. The current cardstock/technology didn’t exist. I think it’s fair to understand that newer cards today are the nth degree of 10, while vintage is still within the same grade range. Now how to put that in practice and train someone from scratch is a different story.

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I see the argument. I think I need to think more on the topic. I think there is something that is distinct between this example and, say, silvering on a Jungle holo.

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Rare 3 cert moment

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Meanwhile centering like this gets a 10.

I think the image might have not uploaded correctly.

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Thanks. Some how the image upload didnt go through.

I’ve noticed, for some reason, the vmaxes that don’t have a border on the top they’re more lenient on. I’ve cracked a lot of them and they’ve come back 10s. Maybe it’s certain graders??

Centering on this is approximately Top/Bottom - 52/48 and Left/Right - 57/43. Both within their 60/40 range…if they’re still using that. lol

Got more strict on their centering but don’t care if the card has been eaten by a small weedle it seems



“As my mumma always said, PSA grading is just like a box of chocolates…ya never know what ya 'gunna get”

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Tbf Id expect a 9 on the shining Charizard.

Front top right corner is definitely something i dont want on my 9’s.

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Honestly I wouldn’t. It’s a common area to have some whitening on neo4s but that one is quite large. Id say this is a nice 8 from the front - but then the back has quite a bit of whitening on the corners and around the right edge.

Ah my bad I just re-read and thought at first you were saying the 9 was too high.

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Suggest PSA grading was generally easier with old certs - everyone attacks you

Suggest PSA has changed their standards overall, but label the thread “Centering changes” - all agree

I guess you just need to word these things in a way people like @charizardespana

I am saying the 9 is too high :melting_face:

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I’ve also been crucified for saying that older certs are on average weaker copies - you’re not alone!

I just found these guys on pwcc and thought it was a funny insight to the ridiculous nature of grading in general

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Or people who have graded longer have a more nuanced perspective.

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coupled with financial interests in that narrative. Im happy to continue pretending they’re all the same and PSA will never change but I just found this thread funny with how a simple title change can diffuse everyone’s opinion

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I think the market already reflects that notion…or at least people are more aware and people buying cards now are more aware that the conditions could be different (of an older cert Vs new certs) and therefore pay more for a cleaner copy (aka newer certs may get more of a premium).