PSA 10 2018 Lost Thunder STAFF SM151 Giratina POP 1

Hey, I’m pretty new to the graded Pokemon scene but I recently got my PSA submission back and my Lost Thunder Giratina Staff card is a PSA 10 with a population of 1. We all know “older, minter, rarer, better” but what would you say is a fair price for a card like this? I can’t find any more raw staff cards on eBay but I’d say odds of another PSA 10 are quite low.

Are staff cards desirable? I like Giratina, but is it a popular Pokemon?

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If you’re not selling why does it matter

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I’d like to hear some appraisals or get an understanding of how the hobby generally values Staff cards.

I think it can be difficult to ascertain value on something like this. I am certainly no expert, but I would say you generally may have to work out a price that you feel the card is worth. I would base that around where the current PSA 9 sales of this card are. I can only really find one sold listing for a PSA 9 copy of the card on PSA’s website, which seems to be about $50. I am not sure if that was an auction that ended at $50, but wasn’t sold or what, but a PSA 10 non-staff copy seems to have sold for around $120. In that case I think you could probably say this card may be worth around $300? Again, I am no expert, just trying to piece together an idea. You may feel this card is worth more, which is entirely up to you, but I suppose at the end of the day there needs to be a sweet spot between what you’re willing to accept for it and what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Either way, it’s pretty sweet that you got that card and if you are looking to sell it at some point, I certainly love me some prerelease promos lol. As someone who does, I find it incredibly strange that most of them stay relatively cheap. Even WotC era prereleases are inexpensive (with the exception of Clefable, although even that one isn’t THAT expensive all things considered imo). I guess the market for these cards is so miniscule that a lot of the pricing may be left up to interpretation lol.

Hope this was at least a little bit helpful!

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Hi there do you still have the card? if so would you sell it?? cheers

It looks like a second copy was graded. I would say 3x the PSA 9, so $500?

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I would argue possibly on the sake of higher value. At the time of writing this, resellers tend to price the PSA 9 at $1,300-1,900, indicating the PSA 10 (at least list price on Ebay) would likely be in the $3,900-$5,700.

Also, a major factor is Giratina’s popularity and the longevity of Giratina’s print run on cards, which I speculate will grow total long term collectors, not to mention the already iconic cards; Giratina V Alt Art, Giratina EX #146, & The Winter Challenge card, the later 2 selling for between $5k-30k the last 2 years. - Also they were the rarest. Except this card (by PSA 10 pop) is the rarest, & hardest to find Giratina of them all.

Maybe it could be low, but for Giratina collectors who will spend upwards of $30k on cards with 30-50 populations, they may value a pop 2 quite high, I do.

If you don’t mind, can you share the cert number?

I am actually the owner of the 2nd psa 10, and my cert is #52239908 :slight_smile:

Hey Meesh, I’m the guy who traded with you lol

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Can you share what he paid?

He traded two Moonbreons for it when they were valued at about $1k each.

I had held the the POP 1 position for a long time and received a lot of lowball offers but eventually lost that exclusivity. I was notified by the other card holder who messaged me on eBay to gloat and tell me my listing title was no longer accurate lol.

Meesh approached me shortly after and $2k in trade value was the highest offer I had gotten so far and he was a Giratina super collector and, as the target market, seemed like the highest offer I would probably get. I also thought it was likely more copies would be graded considering the other guy sought me out to brag.

The trade value was a bit lower than I would have liked but at the time I really needed the money so I liquidated the Moonbreons immediately to cover my expenses.

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So you claim that this card is worth $4,000-$6,000, but you - a super Giratina fan - wouldn’t pay more than $2,000 in trade value for your own copy. :thinking:

I don’t mean to be a shit stirrer, I’m just trying to understand the disconnect. Is it that you believe that you got a really great deal at our friend theruke’s expense?

Here you can get all four Staff cards in PSA 9 for $800.

I’m seeing PSA 8s and 9s sell for <$200.

Should a 10 really be worth $4,000-$6,000?

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I mean this was back in late 2022/early 2023 and no other PSA 10 copies have surfaced since so I think his assessment of the increased value of a PSA 10 copy is fair and pretty close to the current value of 2 Moonbreons which he traded to me in 2022/2023.

I don’t know where he got that PSA 9 value from though lol.

All jokes and stuff but this had to be made.

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