I know this has probably been talked about somewhere but i couldn’t find a thread.
So i was interested in buying a $350 card on ebay, it was also obo. I knew the guy instagram so i dmd him and said i would offer $315 (-35 from fees) not even taking obo into consideration. I personally thought it was a fine offer as i know a lot of people accept -fees in private sales.
He turned around and said he wouldn’t take less then $330 and i was a little confused because if he sold on ebay he wouldn’t even get that? and he had the obo option so he would of got even less.
Am i in the wrong and should i be paying him $330 or should he be fine to accept $315?
It’s possible he may have listed it using a ‘pay no final value fee’ offer (I’ve had a few of these lately) but other than that I think he is being a potato
I don’t think it was? I had a talk with him and said “would you rather give a million dollar company more $ or help out a passionate pokemon collector” and he basically just said we should be splitting the fees. He thinks if im fine paying $350 on ebay then i should be paying him >$315 to help him out as well.
I don’t sell much but in the past I’ve taken like 15% off my ebay price for a private transaction. If you trust the person enough to send as gift you’re saving them 13% on fees so the least they could do is take that 13% off for a private sell. Maybe he’s under the impression that eBay will do a great job of protecting him in the event of an attempted scam lol
see i agree and disagree at the same time. The seller already agreed to losing a certain amount by putting it on ebay. All private sales are doing is helping the buyer by them paying less and having more protection for the seller. (usually)
I would be fine to pay an extra $5 to favor him but i don’t think he should be expecting that.
I think it’s kind of ridiculous to expect him to sell to you at the reduce price and have him eat the cost of the fees.
You actively seeked him out to buy privately so you can save yourself the 350 original price.
I agree with him, he gains nothing really from selling to you privately over eBay.
He is wanting more, possibly, because 1) there is increased perceived risk (i.e. he doesn’t trust you, not familiar/as comfortable with direct transaction through paypal) 2) it’s more hassle and he gets no feedback on eBay 3)he wants more money because you are getting a discount. people do strange things all the time, like paying 20k for a charizard.
The seller is not eating the cost of the fees though. Ebay takes 10%, so ccharizardd wants to take 10% off the price because the seller isn’t getting that anyways. The seller gains nothing from selling to ccharizardd privately over ebay, but in the end, the seller will be getting exactly the same price he/she would get over ebay.
But it’s up to the seller though, in the end it’s down to their own choice. It is weird for me but that’s just me!
you guys forget that people are bastards. yes, you are absolutely right the seller is getting the same amount of money ultimately, BUT he knows you are getting a discount, so to him, he believes he has room to bargain and get a cut of that “discount”. he can’t let you have all the caviar…plus, he has to go through all the trouble to do the paypal thing. he probably feels that he has to do extra work ALL to help you. start thinking in other people’s shoes.
I understand why he asked for the discount, the seller wont see the money either way. But OP is upset because the seller is asking for a cut of the discount. Which the OP feels is ridiculous.
Just playing devil’s advocate here, splitting the fees is something that should be ok, so both parties win.
I said i would give him an extra $5 which i think is enough for his time to post etc but he wanted more. but why not give the caviar to pokemon collector instead of ebay? lol
Subtracting 100% of the fees from the item provides no incentive at all for the seller to do an off-site transaction. Even the most insignificant bonus for selling on ebay (say +1 feedback) makes ebay the better choice.
It’s also an entirety reasonable negotiation strategy for the seller to leverage the discount the buyer receives.
The seller sells more on instagram then ebay and i already asked him about the feedback and that wasn’t the problem. If ebay was the problem i would of just bought a cheap item off his ebay, gave him good feedback and then buy the $350 card privately.
And like i also stated we agreed on friends and family and i have a good rep with hundreds of sales/buys so it would be a lot safer then ebay. I think we all know how easy it can be for a buyer to say they don’t get the item pn ebay.
Fair enough, but still the seller stands to gain little and you stand to gain a decent discount if done off-site. The seller has the edge in negotiation and I don’t think it’s unreasonable if they want to take advantage of that.
At least he will gain something though? thats the whole point. If i was in his shoes i would 100% prefer to gain $10 or so instead of nothing. 9 people watching on ebay and its a fair price, its probably going to sell on ebay quick so hes just going to get less then what i offered.
