I am wondering why do some people considered the Pokemon Center card like the rarest in the bstar set. I get that it was released in the ny Pokemon Centering and all. But looking at the PSA pops, there are plenty of other cards with lower pop like even that Unown J or Misdreavus. I don’t suppose anyone knows how many of these cards were sold or out there either. So what is this based on?
@gomar, the answer is rarity. Most Black star WOTC promos were printed into oblivion, hence the lower values on most but if im not mistaken Pokemon Center and Lucky Stadium were two that had a more limited distribution. I could be wrong there, but thats typically the case with these types of price values.
As for “lower pop” counts, remember that a low pop doesnt mean rare or valuable in the least. Sometimes the two can cross in certain cases, but as i stated with bstar promos, most saw very large print numbers so this could also mean many people just didnt decide to grade them. Youd be surprised to see how many cards have "low pop"s and get sold with absurdly large price points due to attaching that phrase, but always just check the boxes and research before eating that price tag for its easy to not know how to distinguish these things. As Smpratte would say “older, rarer, minter, better”.
Hope this helps a little
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I see. I guess it would be fair to say that as the value of a card grows the population usually grows with it due to more people grading it. Is there somewhere where you can see how much pop has grown for particular cards?
@gomar thatd be a fair assumption there for sure, but then again many factors could go into determining why a certain card gets graded more, so could be a variety of things such as popularity or pokemon, species, set its in, etc. Id just say pay attention to populations sometimes as it could help in some cases in finding something youre after, but otherwise try not to look too much into it beyond what it represents, which is how many of those cards were graded and what grades were given.
As for pop changes, I dont have any real information for that myself but some others might be able to chime in with those details.
Pokemonprice.com is an excellent resource to see how the pop has risen over the past few years. Many people started grading this promo after they started rising in price but the amount has tapered off recently.
The distribution was much more limited than the Nintendo World opening at the same site in 2005 which gave out a special stamped Pichu. Sadly those ones are still not worth anything.
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Thanks for the info qwachansey
It is a promo trainer card. Not many people would grade that type of card. Hence the lower pop. However now that the price is increasing, more people are jumping on the bandwagon and grading the card. Once PSA fully opens you’ll see more of them.
That’s a good point kh36. I was kinda thinking the same thing too. Any idea what the situation with PSA is right now? I heard it wasn’t open but looked around their site and there isn’t any notice of anything.
BTW aside from the NY promo cards are there anything in the bstar set that’s would be considered rare?
The #40 and #41 are the rarest though if you’re talking “PSA Rare” then there’s several that are too tough to get 10s on.
Which ones other than the venasaur.
Eevee
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Can’t reiterate it enough on this forum: you can NEVER figure out price of a card without factoring in BOTH supply and demand. So making the argument that there is only 5x PSA 10 of whatever card doesn’t matter because you need to factor in the demand for that card. For a card to be high-valued it must have limited supply and also high demand compared to the supply. A card that has high pop also does not mean the card is cheap and vice versa.
For black star #40 and #41, I would say a big driver of demand is the art of the card. #41 has the whole zard, pikachu, pichu trio on there and #40 just has a warm feeling to the card with Chansey on the card.
As for supply, it is obvious there are not many of them floating around and that could be for a variety of reasons that are probably unknown. Could be very few actual collectors showed up to get the card at the time…who cares its just a trainer card they figured? Maybe most of the cards were just passed out to random mall shopper who didn’t care about pokemon TCG (so they ended up getting destroyed). Many reasons.
@pikachuisbestpokemon, in this case the promo card was distributed at the opening day of the Pokemon Center, which was a big event for Pokemon lovers. So the people who showed up were not just random mall passerby but people who were there for Pokemon. You were also technically supposed to fill out a form beforehand to limit you to one promo per person. I do agree a fair amount probably got lost over the years
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Right. I’m just showing the point that there could be many possible reasons why the card is rare today. Even if many “collectors” showed up those collectors obviously did not keep the card around to today.