Many of the Pokemon playtest cards were likely printed in 2024

I think your position might be clouding your judgement.

Hoping for the best for you, and that cgc does right by you

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Dang, very disappointed in their response then. Considering I’ve spent many multiples on there compared to the cost of the prototypes, I don’t know if I will continue business with them.

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What are your expectations from the auction house? They really can’t do anything until CGC makes a move

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Maybe… Something I also wonder about is how these uncut sheets were stored. I assume we have no information about that either unless Akabane gives a statement on this whole situation. That’s something im really curious about since most of them are in such pristine condition.

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Noo Voltorb, nooo! Roll back to me!

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I don’t care if at the end of the day these cards are fake. To be honest im genuinely convinced the HQ may be real.
But if people have already surrendered to the idea that they are all fake and no longer accept the slightest doubt to the contrary. Maybe that’s okay. There is no point in going on anymore.
I have brought some intresting poins that have yet to be disproved, however whatever the narrative writes is now obvious.
I will wait along with everyone else for a new finding from PFM who has more credibility anyway.

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after non-stop reading the news on these ugly (imo) pieces of paper glued on cardboard, it feels so refreshing to look through my binders of real cards again hahah

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They’re in pristine condition because they were printed last year. The ones that were printed in 96 all have clear wear and tear.

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Not the HQ ones. Those are not in pristine conditions. Just the 2024 fake ones.
If you see the HQ variants are all marked just like other alphas that have proven to be real.

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From what I have seen it is a bit of a trend. As an owner of a card with the alpha pattern I like this line of thinking! :smile: Though I still feel we are in the dark until more is uncovered.

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My thoughts on the possibilities of these double marked cards.

  1. The cards were marked up during the playtesting phase. Which means an original copy must exist.
  2. Were the original copies scanned with the single mark and at a later date a playtester traced their markings on the card once again. Perhaps while discussing the changes (I can see that happening). Meaning the double printed may be an original.
  3. All markings were added in 2024 by someone. (Not sure if a marked copy is in a corocoro mag or similar).
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Im no expert, but could a scanner potentially cause a blur or something to occur when scanning the original marked card which could cause that double effect

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The auction house is going to have much more leverage than an individual. IMO they should have given the buyers the option to return the cards and then handle it directly with CGC.

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I was shared them from
A friend of mine someone called Marco?

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you can commercially print with an offset printer, especially in china. MTG fakes do this.

For every made up scenario about how they could be real there are far more likely stories about why they are not. I’m not saying this against you personally, but when you are coming up with random theories to explain why yours ā€œcouldā€ be real it kind of speaks for itself

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Smiling through CGC’s downfall, sorry you lost money though OP

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What is the current oldest card that is dot marked 2024? Do any go back further than June… May?

Another thought to put out. It is possible multiple scammers are involved. Two groups or more could be making fakes with differences.

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We’re all beyond the waza at this point.

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I think that’s the main problem, because I have one and I’m trying to theorise about how it could be true, people think I’m doing it for personal gain, when I can assure you I’m not.

It may sound strange, but I find these cards really interesting, and honestly, if they all turn out to be fakes, I would be more saddened that the hobby has lost such an interesting element than any personal financial loss.

Since I have both a possibly genuine copy and a definitely fake, I thought I would have more tools to investigate and possibly understand more.

The things I have written are not unfounded, in my reply to you I laid out all the points in favour of my thesis, they are many and have yet to be refuted.

However, as I have already written, there is no point in continuing to theorise.

At this point, the final stitch will be sewn into this whole thing when one of the alphas can be deciphered. Until then, it will not be possible to say whether these cards are real or fake.

I apologise for the wall of text

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another scam by the sue happy sportscard trimmer? couldn’t possibly be true.

so I am guessing the ā€œinterviewā€ xiao said happened was what was filmed that he does not want released.

Also, someone correct me if I am wrong, but when there were controversies with psa or beckett why did it seem like it moved quicker or their reps actually gave useful information on the situation? CGC is taking their time, unless the fbi is already knocking on Seans door I don’t see how it is beneficial to not say anything to the public directly ( I know they changed their cert #s to say contact their fraud department). Wonder if they have insurance to cover this mess lol.

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