Many of the Pokemon playtest cards were likely printed in 2024

I’ve been thinking about this a lot too. I never want to underestimate the power of the greed but I have a hard time understanding the motives of the reward vs the risk when he could very easily make money off of his legitimate pieces of his involvement in the history and risk nothing. It’s a lot easier to understand it as him being taken advantage of and not doing the due diligence to make sure that wasn’t the case.

There’s so much we don’t know right now so I’m still sitting back and learning. I feel like we all have a bias in not wanting one of the creators of something we love’s name be tainted and I know that’s clouding my perspective to some extent.

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Isn’t banet_1965’s Instagram account supposed to be run by someone who is not Akabane? Or am I missing something?

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This is through his Facebook, not Instagram, which he claimed in in-person was not his and “fake,” though it sold cards attributed to him. Most speculation is that it is run by one of his middlemen.

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From what I’ve heard, banet_1965 IG is run by a middleman of Akabane. I’ve also heard rumors the original banet1965 IG was run by that same middleman of Akabane instead of Akabane himself, but not sure how accurate that information is tbh and I also have my doubts about that considering the pictures we saw on that original IG.

Greetz,
Quuador

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What is your source?

“I made it up”

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if u look at the reason 90% of scammers get caught is because of greed :rofl: whyd you steal like 200M of bitcoins if you stole like 10M prolly wouldve gotten away :roll_eyes:

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Understood, thanks for the explanation, as you mentioned Xian’s story I assumed the conversation was via Instagram.

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I hate to see this. What a great guy. I really hope folks become whole that are affected in this situation and we can move on one day.

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This stunk from the beginning but no one would have imagined the mess was this bad!

I feel bad for those that took the risk and fully trusted the grading company.

I’m expecting a full apology publication from CGC followed by news of them taking court action. Anything less and it suggests guilt of their (CGCs) incompetence was mostly to blame. If so they are finished and forever tarnished in Pokémon.

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Look im not saying i have the absolute truth in my pocket. Im just speculating and trying to reason as why the HQ betas have a significantly better quality since we haven’t figured it out yet.

Let’s analyze the data we have:

We found just two batches of this HQ copies with 2 different certs, the estimated copies of these cards dont even cover the whole 151 set as far as we know, with just 1 copy per Pokémon.
These are much different from any other beta copy which got a print metadata of 2024.
HQ dont have a print metadata so it’s highly likely these cards have not been printed with other fake playtests.
All the HQ copies have marks just like the card we saw are real.
If Pfm theory would be true the hypothesis of these cards being crafted from an old unused sheet with 2024 backs would be more plausible than them being printed at the same time on a different printer than any other fake playtest with a metadata of 2024.
But Pfm himself stated that theory is no longer sustainable, so the hypothesis of these cards being real is still plausible.
I own one of these HQ and 3 LQ and i can see the difference in person is really evident.
The print is so grainy on the fake ones while on the HQ is really smooth and sharp.

LQ

HQ

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But even if the front of the hq betas are somehow authentic and thr back was printed more recently isnt it still just a fake card? I own a hq too.

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In that case, yes. Or at least an half would be lol
But that theory is no longer sustained by Pfm.
So we still can’t tell

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Uhh this whole things a mess and hard to keep up with. Thanks for everyone doing all the hard work🙏. I have a feeling all hq betas are fakes unfortunately. Im going after heritage auctions and or cgc for my money.

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I got a response from Alt they said it’s on CGC to pay out. Alt won’t give us a dime.

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Maybe obvious, does anyone know if these were printed with ink or laser printers? The black specks remind me a bit of laser printing defects. My alpha playtest with the alpha pattern has quite prominent black specks like this persian (also some litttle fraying black threads on the edges of the paper). Commercial color laser printers were introduced around 1994 I think(?) (though the ability existed before that too).

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Not sure if this would be of any help but these were from an old facebook post of Akabane showing the development.

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Oh dear. Pretty shameless tbh considering they marketed the deal. Wonder if it’s in their tos?

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I know you want this to be true but it does not really sound plausible at all. For me it does not make any sense to print a back to an uncut sheet, especially when things could go wrong during the printing process. An uncut sheet which alone would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars could be ruined for a negligible increase in value just to add a back?

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You may be right. My theory is that the LQ are offset while the HQ may be laser.
I also checked with a microscope these cards.
The LQ has a triangular pattern common for the offset print. While the HQ has singolar dots.
I don’t know how useful this factor is, probably it’s not.

Anyway here is a pic of the HQ under a microscope lol

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They printed 10s of new sheets to do fake playtests. Maybe one was already printed and decided to use it. i don’t see it as crazy to be honest

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