Looking for Pokémon investors for a feature on investor culture (Answer Request)

Hi everyone,

I’m Callum, founder of Kanto Post, an independent Pokémon publication. I’m currently researching a feature on Pokémon card investing and why so many people continue to see Pokémon as a reliable collectible market, while things like NFTs and other speculative collectibles have largely fallen out of favour.

The piece isn’t intended to criticise investors or collectors. I’m trying to understand the culture around Pokémon investing, the motivations behind it, and how investors see their role within the hobby.

If you’d be willing to share your thoughts, you can reply below or email me at callum@kantopost.com. You’re welcome to be quoted by username, first name, or remain completely anonymous.

I’m particularly interested in those who have been investing in Pokémon for years, prior to the current boom.

Some of the questions I’m exploring include:

• Why did you choose Pokémon cards over traditional investments such as stocks, or alternatives like crypto?

• Would you still collect Pokémon cards if they had no resale value?

• Do you consider yourself a collector, investor, or both?

• Do you think investor culture is welcomed within the Pokémon community?

• What misconceptions do collectors have about investors?

• What risks do Pokémon investors tend to overlook?

• Are Pokémon cards investments that happen to be collectibles, or collectibles that happen to be investments?

• If Pokémon cards stopped increasing in value tomorrow, or even became worthless, what would still make them worth owning?

Even if you only want to answer one of the questions, I’d love to hear your perspective.

Thanks!

Callum

Kanto Post

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Because Pokémon is awesome! My favorite is Feraligatr, my OG starter in Pokémon Gold. Been collecting the cards, playing the games, and playing the TCG for a long time.

Yes. 1000%.

More of a collector, although I have sold a bit of modern recently since I felt the price ran up a bit too much relative to how rare they actually are and how much (organic) demand there is for them. Mainly alot of Tag Teams and random Sun & Moon blister pack promos that I got for next to nothing back in the day just because I thought they were cool (or for decks, in the case of some of the Tag Teams) that I sold for $100-2k recently. I am VERY bullish on vintage, although I would say I find some of the very recent 5-6 figure sales on the most random vintage holos to be a bit sketchy.

Investor culture, as in people who buy & sell to fund their hobby? Yes. Investor culture, as in people who came from crypto, sneakers, GME, etc to exploit Pokémon (and sports cards/other TCGs) as a get rich quick scheme or money laundering front? The people who raid big box stores and do buyouts to resell at “market”? And arguably even worse - the social media “financial advisors” who tell everyone to “BUYBUYBUY!!!” and ragebait people into FOMOing? Those people (even calling them “people” hurts - they barely qualify as human) can go to hell.

That they’re all the same. A collector who invests to fund their hobby is not the same as the “people” who got into cards as a crypto-esque pyramid.

One that comes to mind for me is specifically related to the influencer crowd, specifically the ones ragebaiting people into FOMOing and telling everyone that cards are gonna make them rich in 5-10 years. Those influencers are playing with fire - lots of people trust them, rely on them, and fully believe that following the advice of these influencers will make them rich. What happens if the market crashes (I don’t personally think it will but I’m not ruling it out), as some fear? What becomes of the reputation of those influencers? These people aren’t licensed financial advisors, after all.

Collectibles that happen to be investments.

Going back to my answer to the first question - the thing that would make them worth owning is that Pokémon is awesome. Especially Feraligatr :rofl: :rofl:.

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I didn’t. Investing was barely an afterthought.

I did this for many years, I would not do so now.

Retired collector who have always been conscious of Pokemon’s potential for potential and have made a few financially sound decisions as a result.

There is no Pokemon community, only congregating clusters of personal agendas. More often than not, opposition to investor culture is what will turn you into a pariah.

Collectors tend to underestimate the reach that investors have.

Pretty much everything. Pokemon investors are a diverse bunch, most would not qualify as investors by any normative standards. The brand has experienced absurd growth, confidence has left the atmosphere. We are in a perfect storm, and the trees hide the forest.

The former, now. The latter, before.

The same thing that made them worth collecting in the first place.

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Holy crap…and I thought I was cynical about the current state of the hobby. You’ve got me beat, bro.

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investments that happen to be collectibles

Bare minimum 95% of people buy pokemon cards as a collectible, not as an investment. Pokemon cards are printed in tons of languages and sold worldwide which have 0 investment value. This sentence doesn’t add up unless we are talking specifically about psa 10s

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you never wanna challenge @c0ll3ct0r there

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I think the best place to ask this would be the official subreddit for that stuff, but hope that you get the answers you want here too.

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I think it’s best to ask multiple sources. Getting different answers from each source would make it more interesting. Most people on here and Pokébeach have been in the hobby for well over a decade, so we’ll of course be giving different responses than people on Instagram and r/PokéInvesting, most of whom got into the hobby 2019 or later (honestly, mostly 2024 or later). OP could also talk in their article about the difference in outlook from different sources/demographics.

I.e; intelligent and level-headed responses from us and PokéBeach, delusional “TO THE MOON” responses from Reddit and Instagram. Which stands to reason, as forums exist for fans of something to discuss their mutual interest, while mainstream social media exists for engagement bait.

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Stuff like this is really irritating if I’m honest.

So many different Pokémon cards exist in the world.

So FEW of them are actually worth any money in the grand scheme of things.

So many people still collect the stuff that isn’t financially noteworthy. Why don’t people talk about that?

Starting your post with a question that asks whey we “chose Pokémon cards over traditional investments” is a weird opener and assumes a lot (wrongly) about the inhabitants of this basement and completely ignores the fact that so many people here and off-here have been doing this long before any eyes were on it and will continue doing it if/when the eyes leave too.

It may be well intentioned, but it comes off like BuzzFeed level drivel.

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It’s not that deep. The only homogeneous culture you will find is on Reddit where people speculate about holding worthless cards or buying ultra-modern sealed product at all time highs to add to their uninsured closet collections.

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It’s literally what above poster said

So many different Pokémon cards exist in the world. So FEW of them are actually worth any money in the grand scheme of things. So many people still collect the stuff that isn’t financially noteworthy.

And thats easily +95% in terms of actual people all around the world buying pokemon cards, whats so hard to grasp?

Majority of cards have no investment value, if I would have to put a number on it it would easily be +95% aswell, actually closer to +99% if you include all languages.

So saying pokemon cards are an investment which happen to be a collectible is just not correct when it captures only a tiny part of the hobby, by both participants and actual cards metric

People blow the investment aspect totally out of proportion. Cards are printed in 13 languages collected and played by kids world wide and only 2 have real investment value for a tiny tiny selection of them

There are probably more kids in japan alone who play the game than there are pokemon investors worldwide

It was kind of a personal joke on my part. I hope they find the answers they want, but each source is going to be confusingly different, and “investing” in pokemon has so many shapes and forms its taken on over the years to where its just funny at this point in time.

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Why did you choose Pokémon cards over traditional investments such as stocks, or alternatives like crypto?

It was a natural follow-on from collecting when Pokemon cards started proving to be lucrative financial vehicles (that phrasing will make a lot of people cringe but I’m too tired to think of an alternative). Pre-existing familiarity and love of the IP combined with an understanding of the consumerbase has allowed many on e4 to make informed long-term decisions which could potentially lead to financial gains surpassing those that could otherwise be achieved through more conventional means. Although, I have more overall conventional and BTC investments than Pokémon-related. There is more risk associated with Pokémon (physical storage, scams etc) but my interest and nostalgia for the Pokemon IP adds an entire dimension of fun and tangibility to the investment process. I feel more connected to what I’m putting my money into. It serves as a direct crossover with a casual love of collecting too; I could buy multiples of cards or products I perhaps only intended to resell at a later date, while reserving the right to decide that I actually want to keep a copy or two for personal reasons.

Would you still collect Pokémon cards if they had no resale value?

Yes, because this would mean they’d be extremely cheap or free to acquire.

Do you consider yourself a collector, investor, or both?

Both. I have only ever professed to being a casual collector, though take great interest in the cards/progression of the franchise even if I’m not actively buying to collect. At this stage in my life I’m predominantly buying to invest, though I enjoy having the freedom to scale how much I do of either whenever I want. Even though E4 was founded as a forum for serious collectors, it’s also an incredibly forgiving place for more casual collectors and even discussion of straight-up stonks.

Do you think investor culture is welcomed within the Pokémon community?

Depends on the subset of the “community”. You could argue that because attention and interest has grown exponentially since 2020, it’s more difficult to ascertain what proportions would consider themselves investors, collectors, or a crossover of the two. I think what gets on the nerves of some in this space is when flippers or resellers feign having a genuine interest in collecting when it’s a thinly veiled attempt at fishing for stonk ideas from knowledgable collectors. Just be honest about your intentions. It’s not wrong to be an investor, or a collector, or a crossover of the two, but it’s exhausting and cringey when this happens.

What misconceptions do collectors have about investors?

That they’re morally inferior because investing practices have contributed to significant inflation in card and product prices. Everyone should invest in a manner conducive to a strong financial future regardless of other people’s view of how they do it. Providing it’s legal of course. There has been somewhat frequent hypocrisy, contention and gate-keeping within Pokémon, particularly in regard to other people earning money via the TCG, how they spend their money on the TCG, and how their spending practices are ‘ruining it for true collectors’.

What risks do Pokémon investors tend to overlook?

The biggest risk for people who are relatively new to this is overestimating their own knowledge. Not just about Pokemon but finance in general. Otherwise; liquidity risks due to poor financial planning and capital allocation. Storage risks: theft, fire, flood, humidity warping, shipping risks: damage, theft, loss. Risk of scams when selling.

Are Pokémon cards investments that happen to be collectibles, or collectibles that happen to be investments?

Well by the nature of their manufacturing, branding and marketing they’re collectible trading cards, so the latter.

If Pokémon cards stopped increasing in value tomorrow, or even became worthless, what would still make them worth owning?

“Worth owning” depends on whether the individual concerned places value on owning pieces of the most successful media IP in history. When I spent peanuts on crystal Charizards in 2011 it certainly wasn’t because I thought I could make money on them. They were a unique representation of a popular character I enjoyed in a franchise I enjoyed as a child and built nostalgia for. The cards provide an opportunity to own a limited, tangible piece of that.

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Indeed. The sentence ´would you still collect if it wasn´t an investment´, should be the other way around; ´would you still invest if it wasn´t a cool collectable.´ The answer is no.

This pretty much sums it up. I had a discussion with someone on Reddit a while ago about prices being so high. What if everything plummets. I responded that that would be great, because I, and a lot of people, would then be storming towards those plummeted cards making them go right up again.

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I think how I interpret what the said as, given the times now, most people who jump into the hobby do think of it as a vehicle to make money off. That is why they said, the former now, the latter before.

The amount of cards being investible worthy does not matter. It is more on the mindset of the people who are getting in.

Cheers!

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I got back into collecting to complete sets I couldn’t as a kid, to relive childhood memories, and to stay connected with my brother. As the values have swelled, I’ve chosen to make some purchases on a monthly cadence with the intent of selling in the future. I am invested in traditionals: ETFs, bonds, cash, precious metals, crypto, etc., and collectibles are an avenue for diversification that pay “memory dividends” in a way the other classes don’t.

When I read this, I overthink it. The cards having no resale value would imply the media franchise was never popular or suddenly became unpopular. If the former is the case, no, the same way I don’t collect merchandise from an obscure TV show from the USSR I’ve not seen. If the latter, then yes as the cards still provide a portal to my past.

A collector. To identify as an investor in this space would allow others to lump me into a group whose membership is less than savory IMO.

As @c0ll3ct0r said, it’s more nuanced than that.

That they don’t like Pokemon. Maybe some people only care about returns, but your love for Pokemon and making profitable trades aren’t mutually exclusive (in fact, I’m sure collectors have a love for both).

The downside risks. As in all hype cycles.

Collectibles simply are investments. Instead of gambling on the future cash flows of a business, the ability of a govt./company to pay on its debts, etc., you’re gambling on whether a (relatively) large number of others will also appreciate the rarity, nostalgia, and appeal of the collectible.

With investments, people part with their money expecting a future return. With collectibles, people tend to buy the things they like and as the market gets hotter, they (or new entrants) may start to expect a return.

See Q1’s answer.

Good luck with the article! Be sure to link it once it’s done :wink: :ok_hand:

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Did anyone look up Kanto Post? Maybe my eyes are deceiving me but it seems like it has zero media presence anywhere. Seems like some weird AI phishing project.

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weird AI phishing project

Where are you getting this? Looks like a passion project for a young man. Granted, I just checked the website but he’s posting content.

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People’s intentions is absolutely a part of it but I was also answering in the context of the question, which was whether cards be investments that happen to be collectibles or collectibles that happen to be investments.

Obviously, most of the worthless dreck that TPC has expelled out of their printers are neither, and never will be.

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