Logan Paul discusses Charizard BGS 10 (Podcast)

TFW you press play on a timestamped bro session titled “One of us is raising our Ex’s baby” to (not) get news on a Pokemon card.

Why though? Because he entered the hobby exactly when it reached record prices, chose the most hyped item of all, then bragged about 5x’ing its value? I don’t understand why ‘enthusiast’ should automatically be associated with buying the most expensive items in the hobby out there, or why it should be associated with how much you are willing to pay at all. And even if we assume that, there are way more people that are sacrificing a far bigger percentage of their income on pokemon cards. To me, an enthusiast is someone who engages in a hobby not for hype’s sake, but for the hobby’s sake. All those insane collections in here, that have been assembled by their owners over many years, even decades, regardless of whether the hobby was up or down - that’s way more enthusiast to me than someone who comes out of nowhere and throws 200k on the wall just because they can.

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You don’t know any of that, that’s just salty man. No need to be so sceptical.
I don’t know the guy, never met him, he seems to enjoy Pokemon card, all good.
Is anyone who profits from it apart from just enjoying it evil? Don’t be so dark :blush:!

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Thank you, Uncle Iroh

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@handschoen,I’m not trying to be negative about it. I just don’t think that enthusiasm correlates with how much money you spend on cards, or on how much hype you generate. The last thing I want is for people to think that you have to do those things to be an enthusiast, because that would be indeed dark. Nice profile pic btw

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I don’t think anyone said that enthusiasm correlates with the amount of money spent, he just said that it seems like LP really likes his cards.
But good to know you meant nothing negative about it.

And thanks, you have good taste yourself too!

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I don’t think most people are inferring amount of money spent = amount of enthusiasm. However there is a lot of truth to that; not necessarily the amount, but how someone buys. The deal they referred to, when it goes public, is a great example of someone just spending more than anyone else out of enthusiasm. There are plenty of wealthy individuals in pokemon that are always lowballing, looking for comps, being scared buyers. I have messages from people worth over 20m asking, “is there a cheaper shipping option than $3”…

Point being, what Logan is doing is full on collecting. Sure he has money, but more importantly, he just spends on what he wants and doesn’t mess around. That is pure enthusiasm. I don’t care if its $10, $100, $1000 or 1M, its the same concept.

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I did not say that whatsoever - the guys is very wealthy but you can definitely see passion in his eyes. When he says “5x the value” its not all he cares about - there are plenty very well respected collectors that also refer to value because they know it gains interest.

He actually collected so many cards, and opened a load of base unl boxes before he went into the first 1st Ed box (none of which he recorded a video on).

Plus many of us with that kind of money would be doing the same thing :joy: going for all the expensive cards!

Love or hate him he does care about the cards.

I have a feeling you are just as excited to have LP spilling the beans although you already know more than most mortals.
How hard is it on a scale from 1 to 10 to not beeing able to say anything :wink:?

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PSA 10 :slightly_smiling_face:

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:joy: that’s pretty thrifty!

I bet he’s creating a grading company and is going to promote it by throwing a massive Pokémon collector event at Dan Bilzerian’s LA mansion where all in attendance will have their cards graded for free.

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Is Logan starring in the next Pokémon movie?

I saw a theory going around that some people think BGS used it for ‘marketing’ and ‘advertising’ which is I guess is really smart on their part considering how it made it onto TV for the big fight between him & Mayweather. Considering he submitted it raw though is pretty amazing and also interesting… I would have been scared of potentially damaging it for sure.

I suppose it is impossible to say what Logan’s intentions are, if he’s a “tru collector,” or if any shade city shit happened with the whole BGS cross-grade. It really doesn’t matter either, what’s done is done. I’d just say it’s important to always stay critical and skeptical of what’s going on just in general, but especially when there is big money involved. Doesn’t mean you have to accuse people of stuff all the time, just be aware.

It bothered me that some people seemed to praise Logan as if he saved the hobby or something. He came in at the peak and bought 1st ed. base. He has exposure, but I just didn’t really understand why he was being so heavily praised all of a sudden (not saying this thread is doing that, just a general observation). Maybe I don’t have a reason to be bothered by that, and I am just being salty, though. Pretty wild that he cracked the card out lol

To me, Logan Paul or other forms of exposure are like a hurricane or a force of nature. Yell at it, cry about it, nothing will change and the storm will still come so it’s up to you on how you deal with it. His first box break felt like a category 5 and changed the landscape with his exposure. When the second one was announced I acted foolishly and started over paying for cards for fear of the coming storm… and it ended up just rolling by without much effect. Now it feels like there’s something new on the horizon? Hopefully I’ve learned something from the first two events! lol

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Jury is still out on if he “changed the landscape” or rode the wave.

A person surfing a wave is the one who’s picture gets on the front page and gets all the credit, but they didn’t create the wave. That’s not to say they didn’t get a lot people excited about surfing.

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I hope that Logan spills the beans, that he has bought an illustrator, cracked it, got it signed by Mike Tyson and Steve Aoki, and lastly graded a Pristine 10 afterwards.

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Perhaps I think too longterm sometimes, but I view Logans involvement as mostly immaterial. Unless he’s the only guy in his field with any sense, he’ll be some kind of selfhelp guru or grimy philanthropist/pseudo-philosopher in 10-15 years time, no-one is going to give two shits about his quick stint with Pokemon just like no-one cares about Brand X celebrity being involved with Pokemon back in 2001.

Good point. There is definitely a lot more at play than just an influencer or event creating awareness. I think people (myself included) tend to focus on events or people because it’s easier to understand. We can see them and know the date that it happened, etc. We’re simple creatures looking for the easiest answer lol

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