[LAST DAY] FORUM CHALLENGE: Who is best PSA estimator here?

General
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Since I so far have a 100% success rate on my predictions, this should be easy. :wink:
NOTE: I’ve only predicted and graded two cards in my entire life (both PSA-10).

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`1) Alakazam: 8
2) Blastoise: 9
3) Chansey: 8
4) Charizard: 8
5) Clefairy: 7
6) Gyarados: 10
7) Hitmonchan: 9
8) Machamp: 8
9) Magneton: 7
10) Mewtwo: 8
11) Nidoking: 6
12) Ninetales: 10
13) Poliwrath: 9
14) Raichu: 9
15) Venusaur: 6
16) Zapdos: 7
17) Charizard: 6
18) Charizard: 8
19) Blastoise: 8
20) Charizard: 10

Mainly based on whitening on the back, silvering on the front, scratches on the artwork, and centering.`

I basically have no idea what I’m talking about. So if I win I’m gonna rofl hard. :stuck_out_tongue:

Greetz,
Quuador

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Friendly bump - PSA entered my cards into their system within 1 business day :open_mouth: Maybe there will be a lot fewer than 30 days before the grades are posted…

Also here’s an example of a score report that each submitter will see in the final results thread :blush:

`Results for rando forum member:

Card | Estimate | Actual Grade | Difference

  1. Alakazam | 10 | 8 | Way too high! Off by 2 grades.
  1. Blastoise | 8 | 9 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Chansey | 7 | 8 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Charizard | 9 | 9 | Perfect Estimate!!
  1. Clefairy | 8 | 9 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Gyarados | 7 | 9 | Harsh grader! Too low by 2 grades.
  1. Hitmonchan | 10 | 8 | Way too high! Off by 2 grades.
  1. Machamp | 9 | 10 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Magneton | 8 | 10 | Harsh grader! Too low by 2 grades.
  1. Mewtwo | 7 | 8 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Nidoking | 9 | 8 | Too high by 1 grade!
  1. Ninetales | 10 | 9 | Too high by 1 grade!
  1. Poliwrath | 8 | 9 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Raichu | 6 | 7 | Too low by 1 grade!
  1. Venusaur | 3 | 7 | Check your vision! You were too low by 4 grades!
  1. Zapdos | 9 | 5 | WAY OFF! You were off by 4 grades!
  1. Charizard | 4 | 10 | Check your vision! You were too low by 6 grades!
  1. Charizard | 9 | 7 | Way too high! Off by 2 grades.
  1. Blastoise | 8 | 8 | Perfect Estimate!!
  1. Charizard | 10 | 9 | Too high by 1 grade!

Final Score: 34

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I’m just gonna roll the dice. Here are my predictions:

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  1. Alakazam: 9
  2. Blastoise: 10
  3. Chansey: 8
  4. Charizard: 9
  5. Clefairy: 9
  6. Gyarados: 10
  7. Hitmonchan: 9
  8. Machamp: 8
  9. Magneton: 8
  10. Mewtwo: 7
  11. Nidoking: 7
  12. Ninetales: 10
  13. Poliwrath: 9
  14. Raichu: 10
  15. Venusaur: 6
  16. Zapdos: 7
  17. Charizard: 8
  18. Charizard: 9
  19. Blastoise: 9
  20. Charizard: 10
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GRADES HAVE BEEN POSTED TO MY PSA ACCOUNT! If you wanted to take part in this challenge but didn’t want to wait a month to see your results, now’s the time to submit! I’ll be closing this thread tomorrow at 12pm and posting the results thread shortly thereafter. Oh, and I promise not to edit my estimates now that I know the answers :wink:

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I’m assuming no PSA 10 Zard? :slightly_frowning_face: Or does the pop report only get updated so often?

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Spoiler
  1. Alakazam:8
  2. Blastoise:9
  3. Chansey:9
  4. Charizard:9
  5. Clefairy:8
  6. Gyarados:9
  7. Hitmonchan:9
  8. Machamp:9
  9. Magneton:8
  10. Mewtwo:8
  11. Nidoking:7
  12. Ninetales:10
  13. Poliwrath:8
  14. Raichu:9
  15. Venusaur:7
  16. Zapdos:9
  17. Charizard:7
  18. Charizard:9
  19. Blastoise:7
  20. Charizard:10

Unique idea! Thanks for hosting!

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Just have to say…this is really unfair, one cannot see the true condition unless specifically touching and in person with the right differentiated lighting…haha
We are basically just guessing here haha, taking a risk, like shopping on ebay or yahoo auctions. maybe I’m too lenient.

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  1. Alakazam: 10 (back centering off but passable)
  2. Blastoise: 9 (centering)
  3. Chansey: 9 (need more detail on scratches… Is it production Freying or what?)
  4. Charizard: 9
  5. Clefairy: 9
  6. Gyarados: 10
  7. Hitmonchan: 8 ( top left back corner bend?) cannot see… This is unfair. As we cannot see card in person.
  8. Machamp: 9
  9. Magneton: 8
  10. Mewtwo: 8.5
  11. Nidoking: 7
  12. Ninetales: 10
  13. Poliwrath: 9
  14. Raichu: 10
  15. Venusaur: 7.5
  16. Zapdos: 9
  17. Charizard: 7
  18. Charizard: 9
  19. Blastoise: 8
  20. Charizard: 10
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Totally agree with you :slight_smile: But I thought it would be a neat challenge and would love to be on the other side of the table to try something like it if anybody wants to set another one up :wink:

Also can you wrap your estimates in [ spoiler ] tags by chance?

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Yeah it’s fun :grin:

One of my dream jobs haha.

Ok. I think I fixed the spoiler.

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hahha yeah i am the greatest in the land.

I got 20 gem mint 10 right of peoples grades in last few months on huge ass cards. because god mode.

Now put your tinfoil hat one because its time for tinfoil facts in the hobby with pokesynd:
Given my psychic abbilitinz as some say, I totally new that zard would get a 10 and that everyone was downplaying it xD
I should have put in my estimates of all the cards… Very upset i didnt. its all you guys fault.
Everyone downplays zards all the time. cause its the most valuestons… Its a psa 6 so there for sell it to me xD
Lesson to take away is trust noone but your own eye. Every single person will downplay to get a better deal, and act like there not interested I know this is just a quiz, but its a very important fact to learn in this hobby at a young age from what ive seen as thats how people make a killing, when i was a scrub I went through some of this as part of the learning curve, made profit, and didnt lose anything but the potential profit was more then what I was selling for ect. This is the way people deal, Tiz the way of this hobby and your living in a fantasy if you believe otherwise, because its the name of the game! Play to win… How else would you make the profits, you have to be a greed monsterb.

In this scenario though when it comes to these big cards Trusting yourself and nobody else can be the difference between 500 dollars and 16,000.

Again though we definitely need to see the holo of wizards of the coast stuff. Ide say the thing that held off the blastoise would have been print lines or some shit like that.

Blastoise shadowless is notorious for print lines from what ive heard from other english graders also and i guess thats why it is so low pop. so is clefairy and chansey and shit. However I have a great shadowless lot just like this. Well sister does xD

Im guessing your the dude who sold the charizard recently 16k congrats!

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Bro, this is the third time saying you’re the best estimator. There’s still time to submit your estimates, so go ahead and let’s see whatcha got :slight_smile:

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Bro Im a god, but i only share my estimates with my minions who grade them. xD Mear mortals can not understand such power and will be scared. I cant put that upon all americans, there not ready for my musk.

Anyway I cant put my estimates in now, there up the top the grades. I could easily copy them.

There is no proof, but just ask certain people and you will find the fist of syndi fury.

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The grades have not been posted yet - the report above was just an example of what each person’s score report will look like.

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oh i thought those were the actual grades… well that was stupid. Wait a minute. gods are not stupid… YOu are a liar Hypernova, and you are wrong. Most likely an american to.
hmmm.

well all of them will 10 then.

My estimate is straight psa 10.

My estimates are not for free either. I cant be posting anything for free. Psychics dont work for free man.

I will say this. THe charizard and blastoise definitley deserve a review if they dont 10. Ide say a few of them could be 10, and would be worthy of review.

Okay Imma show you my thoughts

Gyarados chance at a 10

  1. alakazam has a stronger chance at a 10 but might go a 9… But ide be reviwing it because ive seen 10s just like it.

  2. The Mint blastoise as i said should be a 10. if not then it should be reviewed. If that holo is perfect, and that back is that good, then I wouldnt be very happy with a 9.

  3. Chansey has a slight chance at 10 but given the scratch mentioned and slight dots it most likely a 9, but could go 10.

  4. Charizard after chansey looks like a 10, but could go 9 because of centering… But it should go up for review if so because psa 10s have been graded like that. Psa are very strict on the aestetically pleasment of the front centering, but if all else is perfect all that centering subgrade has to earn is a 9 usually. This card in my mind should be a 10.

  5. Clefairy will probably get an 8 on a good day a 9.

  6. gyarados has some slight shit on the side left over but might get a 10 and has a good chance at one.

  7. Hitmonchan Looks very nice just that dot that might dock it to a 9… but If reviewed will most likely 10.

  8. Machamp will probably 9 because of those white dots andd because its machamp lol but still yeah.

When talking about these lowly grade ones, they could still get 9s in the case scenario weve seen before. Once there was a 1st ed shadowless that looked exactly like some of these 8s and it was the worst thing ive seen, yet it got a 9.

  1. magneton will 8 or lower ide say.

  2. Mewtwo after magneton will 8 or lower

  3. Nidoking will probably 8.

  4. Ninetales has a shot at 10.

  5. poliwrath will 8 or 9

  6. Raichu has slight chance at 10, but i think it will more then likely 9 because of print line .

  7. Venusaur sucks balls I dont wanna grade it.

  8. Zapdos would have been a 10 if there wasnt print lines, so that holds it back unfortunately :sob:

  9. the first Charizard under zapdos sucks balls.

  10. 2nd charizard under zapdos IS nice, but that edge wear on the corner could kill it, so most likely a 9. Ive seen shadowless 9s with that corner wear.

  11. That Blastoise with the ding is unfortunately killed by the ding. probably a 9. Ive seen PSA 10 with a ding that induces whitening on 1st ed shadowless before though. There is couple of spots though i see there.

  12. That bottom charizard could get a 10… So you got 2 Strong AF candidates of charizard for a 10… But ide say only 1 can be the victor for this round. It is not likely for 2 to go down as 10s in the same submission.

See now am i gonna get a medal for all this effort? hypernova wheres my prize.

Of course this is all judging that the explanation for the holos being flawless are correct, and theres no hidden problems on the backs that we cant see. Alot of them just look like the typical minor factory stuff that is not damage.

But Ide say there is a pretty clear picture at the cards that will score 9 and have chance at 10.

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  1. Alakazam: 10
  2. Blastoise: 10
  3. Chansey: 8
  4. Charizard: 9
  5. Clefairy: 7
  6. Gyarados: 10
  7. Hitmonchan: 9
  8. Machamp: 10
  9. Magneton: 8
  10. Mewtwo: 8
  11. Nidoking: 10
  12. Ninetales: 10
  13. Poliwrath: 8
  14. Raichu: 9
  15. Venusaur: 7
  16. Zapdos: 8
  17. Charizard: 9
  18. Charizard: 9
  19. Blastoise: 8
  20. Charizard: 8
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I think you forgot some numbers xD

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Mr Psychoic, I need you to grade these two please :stuck_out_tongue:

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You’re killing me smalls xP

Also please tell me your estimates for #15 & #17 kthx I do not have your psychic abilities and therefore do not know what you’d grade them

this is what I have so far for you (I took your more conservative estimates, let me know if you want to change any of these):

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  1. Alakazam: 9
  2. Blastoise: 10
  3. Chansey: 9
  4. Charizard: 10
  5. Clefairy: 8
  6. Gyarados: 10
  7. Hitmonchan: 9
  8. Machamp: 9
  9. Magneton: 8
  10. Mewtwo: 8
  11. Nidoking: 8
  12. Ninetales: 10
  13. Poliwrath: 8
  14. Raichu: 9
  15. Venusaur: 6
  16. Zapdos: 9
  17. Charizard: 8
  18. Charizard: 9
  19. Blastoise: 8
  20. Charizard: 9
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hmmm i cannot chose those conserbz. stuff like hitmonchan and gyarados, alkazam ect are both almost equal at getting a 10.

I said one of the charizard is going to get a 10.

Im firm believerb in one of them actually scoring a 10.

The venusaur is like a 6 or 7 at best.
could even hit a 5, maybe even a 6.5 lol because of that shithole centering.

the shit charizard is probably an 8 at best. corner wear is to strong.

SO lets go with 2 options.

Syndi Full blown optimisim including future REVIEWS:

  1. Alakazam: 10

  2. Blastoise: 10

  3. Chansey: 9

  4. Charizard: 10

  5. Clefairy: 8

  6. Gyarados: 10

  7. Hitmonchan: 10

  8. Machamp: 9

  9. Magneton: 8

  10. Mewtwo: 8

  11. Nidoking: 8

  12. Ninetales: 10

  13. Poliwrath: 8

  14. Raichu: 9

  15. Venusaur: 7

  16. Zapdos: 9

  17. Charizard: 8

  18. Charizard: 9.5

  19. Blastoise: 8

  20. Charizard: 9

and Conservitive synd:

  1. Alakazam: 10

  2. Blastoise: 10

  3. Chansey: 9

  4. Charizard: 10

  5. Clefairy: 8

  6. Gyarados: 10

  7. Hitmonchan: 9.5

  8. Machamp: 9

  9. Magneton: 8

  10. Mewtwo: 8

  11. Nidoking: 8

  12. Ninetales: 10

  13. Poliwrath: 8

  14. Raichu: 9

  15. Venusaur: 7

  16. Zapdos: 9

  17. Charizard: 8

  18. Charizard: 9

  19. Blastoise: 8

  20. Charizard: 9

Of course there is always Option c - The ultra conservative synd:
and Conservitive synd:

  1. Alakazam: 10

  2. Blastoise: 10

  3. Chansey: 9

  4. Charizard: 10

  5. Clefairy: 8

  6. Gyarados: 9.5

  7. Hitmonchan: 9.5

  8. Machamp: 9

  9. Magneton: 8

  10. Mewtwo: 8

  11. Nidoking: 8

  12. Ninetales: 10

  13. Poliwrath: 8

  14. Raichu: 9

  15. Venusaur: 7

  16. Zapdos: 9

  17. Charizard: 8

  18. Charizard: 9

  19. Blastoise: 8

  20. Charizard: 9

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  1. Alakazam: 9
  2. Blastoise: 9
  3. Chansey: 10
  4. Charizard: 8
  5. Clefairy: 8
  6. Gyarados: 10
  7. Hitmonchan: 9
  8. Machamp: 8
  9. Magneton: 10
  10. Mewtwo: 9
  11. Nidoking: 8
  12. Ninetales: 9
  13. Poliwrath: 10
  14. Raichu: 10
  15. Venusaur: 9
  16. Zapdos: 9
  17. Charizard: 10
  18. Charizard: 10
  19. Blastoise: 9
  20. Charizard: 10

Here we go, these results were randomly generated. If anyone does worse than this they should just give up on grading

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