Is Beckett cooked? $$$ lawsuit

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Im guessing that Tag replaces BGS in the pokemon tcg world

nobody grades with Beckett anymore it’s been in a massive decline even before the recent controversies
also, outside of spectacular cards that people hope can gold/blacklabel 10, the biggest use of BGS right now is to get extra premium on a card that would actually score LOWER with psa.
The 4 subgrade system is often used to the advantage of the seller and the market is catching on and giving less premium. For example, a well centered card that has a very nice surface and pretty good corners, but terrible edges might get a psa7.
but if its a valuable card the owner might opt to BGS grade it since the subgrades can easily push it up to a bgs 7.5 - 8
once upon a time the market believed that bgs scores were harsher/ more legit but that has all but dissipated except for the legendary bgs 10

some ppl still like their cards encapsulated in a sleeve, and some love the 4 subgrades listed, but the main reason to grade with BGS now is to take advantage of their scoring system and buyers arnt interested

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1 buyer is! Subgrades are one of my favorite parts of BGS slabs. I’ve been taking advantage of BGS 7-9’s that are only low grades because of bad centering and/or a sharp corner. Lots of great deals recently on what have always been high quality cards when they get here.

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I like it too, but the market isnt lying. in 2024 over 20 million cards were graded,
and BGS only graded 657k of them. Thats only 3% of the market

Have you seen Tag and their technology? You get subscores in more detail than Beckett could ever dream of providing. You get a full multipage detailed report and even defect identification and no human error or inconsistencies to boot.
I can see them really eating into the typical BGS fan base

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All good as long as we keep getting deals on nice cards haha. Subject to change, but my experience is still that BGS is more reliable than other companies, especially with the little details. It’s the only reason I keep coming back when there are no scans.

The TAG slabs and cert reports look fantastic. I’m hoping to find a few TAG, ARS and ACE slabs soon. I just like a nice card in a slab that matches the art with no condition surprises.

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I’m genuinely curious what little details you think bgs excels at noticing that other companies do not? I’ve had nothing but bad experiences when I used bgs. It was more common than not to have a cracked slab and/or loose label on all my returns for several years. To me those are more than little details that are never noticed or corrected

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Based on my experience so far, I find BGS is more reliable than other companies, not necessarily that they excel where others don’t. I buy their slabs along with PSA and CGC on ebay & rarely grade, so my experience with them excludes any problems like cracked slabs or label issues.

BGS has been more reliable in a few areas that are important to me like micro scratches, mis-grades due to dents, and the general amount & combination of potential flaws you learn to expect at certain (sub)grades.

Just to be clear, I’m not saying my sample size amounts to statistical relevance. I just love these big old bricks with the slate label that people seem to dislike so much. They’ve been treating me well

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I used to use them just because the label was simple and that was about it. PSA label seemed too colorful and distracting

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As long as the card is in good condition, I don’t mind the label. Some cards look really good in one or the other depending on the art.

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Tag will 100% sell up to one of the big dogs, they may even sell to BGS lol.

(BGS were investing in AI grading).

Also TAG is weird AF atm.

Their “AI” is not that strict on vintage, but very strict on modern.

Surely they should all be the same?

Every single TAG vintage card I’ve seen has been overgraded.

Consistency?

Surely this shouldn’t be the case?

Also your point about subgrades, contradicts yourself as they basically have subgrades on steroids if you pay for their X service - but apparently no one cares about subgrades…odd.

Plus, almost no one sends vintage there (except for a small group of collectors).

Their slabs have also been proven to be weak (they tried to play it off as tamper proof) and break with so much as a fart blown on them.

I like more competition but don’t come here to razzle dazzle about tag lol

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So, my feedback regarding BGS Europe:

i sent in a few cards just when they opened their service. I have my cards back now and all grades are ±0.5 how i expected them. I even cracked a card graded by BGS USA and submitted it raw to compare it 1:1. BGS Europe graded edges -0.5, the rest was exactly the same.

They do have a problem with the sharp top edges (happens to around 1/3 of the cards i sent in) and i emailed them about it. BGS USA had this problem too (temporarily). Besides that the cases are much cleaner than they used to, label looks 1:1 to me. Customer Service is responsive.

There is room to improve, but for now it looks good to me. Would like to hear more feedback, in case anyone submitted too. Their company structure is still a mystery to me, but give it a try and see for yourself. I think it was better than i expected.

Bonus question: Another submission to BGS USA which arrived on february 19th (standard service) is not listed yet, no job id created after 11/12 days. They created an invoice though and took the money of my cc, but nothing more happened. It was never like that before, so i am a little worried everything is okay with my cards. Anyone experienced something similar with BGS USA or they just have a backlog rn? Thank you.

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Thanks for your feedback and happy to hear you had a good experience with them!

In regards to your US submission, I wouldn’t worry as they are slow at inputting atm. Your cards are fine if they were delivered (BGS refuse packages that are tampered with).

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thank you, makes me feel less worried now.

Package got signed for by “IRODRIGUEZ” who accepted many of my submissions in the past, so it looks fine on that end.

Just a bit odd that they created an invoice and took money without job id and without listing the cards individually. I don’t mind waiting, was just hoping everything is fine with my cards. Last idk 20 times it was listed within 1-3 days max (standard submission). Now its 12 and counting without hearing anything back

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I’ve also not received emails from them and then it just pops up in my account. I wouldn’t worry.

Hopefully their recent $250M investment helps to fix these little issues!

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Someone knows if you send a card that they evaluate and refuse to grade, do they still charge you the fee or return both the card and the money?

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If they deem it as altered they will still slab it up as Authentic Altered (blue label) and charge you.

If they can’t grade it, they will return it to you and refund you minus shipping.

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Ok thanks!! And yes, i was thinking more a vintage card that they havent graded before and might refuse to grade due to lack of info or knowledge.

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regarding the top sharp edges of the BGS cases from BGS Europe they already emailed me back.

They said it was a mistake and shouldn’t happen again in the future. Also they offered a free recasing.

Don’t have a picture rn, but i think everyone familiar with BGS cases knows what the “sharp edge” issue means.

6 out of 20 cards were affected by it.

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I’ve had that and I’ve also had the weird internal fissures inside the case on the top right corner. I think it’s something to do with the sonic welding.

They always offered a discount and a free recase if there are any issues.