How often do you re-assess your goals?

I’ve set and reassessed goals very many times since I’ve gotten back into collecting in 2020. It’s taken me quite a while and an unfortunate amount of spent money to really get my footing with what makes me happy.

I’ve started many binders that I haven’t completed. Many other goals I started, some I didn’t even get the chance to start. A lot of changes I had to make due to money, but also I was finding myself feeling quite unhappy.

Most recently, at the beginning of this year I had a certain incident occur that has permanently altered how I engage with the hobby. This was a bad thing, but ultimately, turned into a good thing because it forced me to face the reality that I was unhappy in the hobby and move to change that. So, I took a very long break throughout this year and spent some time thinking about what makes me happy in collecting. I’ve decided to make a strong pivot away from graded cards and toward binders. I still enjoy graded cards and will continue to buy them, just significantly less, and much more pointed. My main focus in the hobby nowadays is personal enjoyment/ fulfilment and right now, that means prioritizing binders of cards I like. A goal I’m working on now is Black Star WotC promos and then after that, probably gonna focus on vintage like Carddass '97 + Vending + original 151 pokedex binders. Pretty excited :slight_smile:

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My most major assessment is that S&V era is a flop. Nothing is worth collecting (151 is a reboot which is not part of S&V era technically).

Back to vintage (slabbed)…

I don’t mean to be “that guy,” but I don’t set goals; I use systems.

Systems will beat goals every single time. You can have as many goals as you want, but if you don’t systems in place to achieve them, it won’t matter.

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Damn really?! I have seen some people saying this and I personally don’t understand it at all! I’ve hardly bought any SV because the prices for boxes and what not have been crazy, but every set so far has looked pretty amazing imo.

151 is absolutely part of SV era! Evolutions/ CP6 is part of XY, despite being a Base Set reprint, and 151 is an entirely original set!

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I can understand not liking the new pokemon, but theres so many good looking cards in sv era. I guess the lack of big hitter textured cards is what people dont like, but cmon… Look at Paldea Evolved and tell me you cant find at least 10 cards that are bangers

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I try to deliberately not re-assess my goals often. I would say I re-assess once every year or so. I don’t have the budget to accomplish goals extremely quickly, so that frequency works for me. I would love to be able to re-assess every month, but slow and steady wins the race!

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Hmm what are these systems that you use?

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I don’t really reassess my goals much, but I do try to purchase items that are fairly easy to sell either as a single or as a lot; liquidity is welcome incase I ever do want to make a large shift towards something else.

On the topic of SV, as someone that just enjoys collecting and isn’t looking for financial gain, SV is absolutely amazing.

Consistency, persistence, studying market trends, reading, etc.

They aren’t unique systems. Literally anyone can employ them.

It’s the same with anything else in life.

Systems > goals.

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It sounds like the same thing, you’re just describing the process to achieve goals successfully.

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I hardly bought any cards becos so far the top chase cards are not awesome enough and I’m not waifu fan. Only bought the gold Mew ex… and still somewhat unsatisfied with it that I’m not going to send it for grading.

That set I only bought the gold Rare Candy (JPN version).

No, I’m not. I employ systems first, and good things manifest as a result throughout the process. Essentially, I allow my systems to determine/solidify my goals and not vice versa.

I’m not saying it’s wrong to have goals or that you shouldn’t have goals. What I am saying is that many people tend to focus too much on goals without actually having a system in place.

Relying on systems will allow you to seamlessly adjust on the fly. Relying on goals will lead to inevitable frustration.

Hmm, interesting. I’d have to caveat that and say: I decide on goals and create systems to lead to the goal. It sounds like youre saying your systems lead you to deciding on goals? If that works, youd be the first I know who uses that type of model tbh haha.

Anyway, to answer @wisewailmer , I’ve lately been reassessing some goals, and it always seems to happen around times of noise in the hobby. Like, I just bury my head further into my small corner of collecting every time a new event skyrockets. Admittedly, this does make me miss out financially on some opportunities but thats only like 10% of the reason im here anyway.

TLDR: I buy the wrong cards at the wrong time, everytime.

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I stopped setting specific goals a few years ago. I’ll give you an example of how my systems have created goals or ideas for me in the past.

Back in 2020 when everything English was going through the roof, I utilized the knowledge and experience I had developed and honed in the hobby in order to make the decision to pivot to Japanese. I never once had the specific goal of collecting Japanese cards. However, due to the systems I had previously employed and all of the knowledge I had gained from putting those systems to work, the decision to switch to Japanese manifested and it ended up being the best move I have ever made in the hobby.

I have put systems in place that have allowed me to discover things on the fly, and it has made my time in the hobby significantly easier. Will it work for everyone? Maybe not, but it’s my own little personal cheat code that has taken me further than I ever would have gone had I not implemented the strategy.

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This is a great discussion topic so if you may clarify for me, what does the manifestation aspect mean? I am a bit unclear how just having systems helped you switch over to collecting Japanese without any other variable. I also subscribe to the fact that you need systems in larger parts to create desirable habits but I also concur what @wjames mentioned that systems help you achieve the goals successfully.

Just very crude examples that walking / running is a very good system to have but the details of that systems depend on whether I want to train for a marathon or just improve my cardio (goals). Also you can use goals to actually back test your system to see if it is working as intended. Meaning, if I just have a system to walk, I can just keep walking in circles and not go anywhere, but if I have a destination in mind then I can use that system to get there safe and in an efficient manner.

My guess is that usually there is a notion that goals can be unrealistic or limit how much a person can grow once they reach a easy goal. It is better to have both long and short term goals and design systems to reach them. Once you reach a goal you can always look back and evaluate what went right and not so right and then move on to the next goal.

Cheers!

I feel like this is being taken to be more complicated than it actually is.

The more knowledge you get about a particular subject, the more you are able to see things and make better decisions based upon said knowledge.

Example: let’s say you play a sport. There are certain things you are not going to be able to achieve in that sport unless you have the knowledge and experience. I have always played basketball, but I can tell you flatly that there were things I was able to accomplish in the sport that I would have absolutely not have been able to do without playing against certain types of opponents. Sometimes I would do things on the court that just became second nature based on experience. I didn’t “plan” to do them.

So in the instance of me pivoting to Japanese cards, I saw that English was becoming exorbitantly overpriced and I felt that Japanese was undervalued. So, I made the switch. I didn’t concoct any goals back in 2017 where I said, “One day, I am going to focus on Japanese cards.” I never had the intention of doing it. I merely saw the opportunity in 2020 and didn’t look back.

Well, I never said systems don’t help you achieve goals successfully, but we are talking about two different things here, as I just explained about my switch to Japanese cards. That was not a goal; it was a direct result of acquired knowledge.

Another example is that I recently started buying more Japanese modern. Was that something I set a goal to start doing? No. I just noticed that the vintage market was becoming more and more difficult to navigate so I decided to broaden my horizons by delving deeper into modern. I adjusted, and that adjustment came with having knowledge that I have acquired over the years. There was a time where I resisted modern with every fiber of my being, but now, I love it.

Really, I have stopped saying things like “I need to have this card” or “I have to grade this in a PSA 10” and have instead began focusing on just buying what I like and learning as I go along. Throughout the process, I study market trends. I listen to people like Scott and others in the hobby who know more than me and have more experience than I do. I read. I experiment. I use both deductive and inductive reasoning. I list different items in my store to see what sells and what doesn’t. The list goes on and on.

I never said that you shouldn’t have goals. What I am saying is that goals can often produce frustration when you don’t reach them. I instead choose to generalize things and think, “Okay, I am going to do X, Y and Z and I am going to continue doing it because it has produced positive results for me in the past. When I do this, I notice that I make better decisions which lead to better results.” I do that, and goals start to take shape as a result. “Okay, my knowledge and experience directed me toward Japanese, and it has proved to be a good decision, Now I am regularly buying Japanese cards and seeing great results, so I am going to start grading 200 of these every two months.”

I’m not suggesting that anyone else do this. It’s simply my method.

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Thanks for the insight. Just wanted to get your perspective on how you view things. Appreciate it!

Cheers!

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This has been really insightful! I’m glad to see I’m not the only one moving things around. Recently I’ve made some very large collection pivots with the help/advice of some e4 friends I can’t wait to share! Been hinting at a collection thread for 2 years now…

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Systems is still secondary, vision is then the most important and essential. I have vision.

Vision > Systems > Goals

What do you mean with vision?