Holographic Jungle Set Spearow??

[irishluck12]

@kurtosisblakeinfini

I used to own a neo Genesis Feraligatr (5), Typhlosion (18) as a non holo with Quilava (Neo Genesis 46) & Houndour (Neo Discovery 58) as holofoil featured in this exact style (and not in engrish or Spanish but actual English). These were obtained back in 2001 on family Spanish islands vacations (sexpat shitholes like Alcúdia, Mallorca, Ibiza etc). Interestingly these two sets were not officially printed back at home unless someone knows about WOTC’s European distribution??

You have to imagine my amazement as a kid then seeing exclusive new areas to the franchise that already engulfs my life in seeing not one but two upcoming sets that were unreleased at home when all was had at that time naturally was magazines and word of mouth from elders. @azulryu and others are on point about how these franchises should utilise and take back ideas made from the fakes to give them a taste of their own medicine.

I have got still some amusing Yu-Gi-Oh fakes from 2004 that again featured the same excitement at the time when I pulled a funny ass deformed Five God Dragon before it was translated officially in English I mean to show.

Interestingly enough I can’t remember ever getting a card during my years as a kid collector that didn’t come directly out of a booster pack or box set. I did some trades with friends at school but AFAIK they were buying from big box stores like Walmart because that was all we had back then really. Wish I knew more of the provenance on where the fakes came from. Looking at this fake it’s definitely one in going to keep in my own collection just because it is a very high quality fake (in my completely amateur opinion LOL) I wonder if there will ever be a market for specific fakes in the future some time. It seems like it would be an interesting collection to have on the side

[irishluck12]

@Quuador

@irishluck12

Would you mind explaining what a “Rosetta” pattern is? I haven’t heard that term before.

All Pokémon cards are printed with a so-called off-set printer. Tiny dots are printed in four different colors (CYMK): cyan, yellow, magenta, and black, and forming colors for our human eyes when looking at the full picture. Although not an entirely correct comparison, you could kinda see the Pokémon WotC Rosetta pattern as an unique fingerprint. So you could compare the Rosetta dot pattern on real vs fake Pokémon cards, 99% of the time you will see a different Rosetta pattern.

If you google for “rosetta pattern mtg” you can see some examples. For Pokémon it’s not used too often tbh, but I personally think it’s a powerful tool to instantly determining if a suspicious card is fake or not if you the card in hand.

Here is also an interesting video. It focuses on misprints, but explains how Pokémon cards in general are printed, including the CYMK layer; solid black layer; white layer for holofoil cards; etc.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=15gsDW6i97c

Greetz,
Quuador

Oh well this is really cool! I’m going to research it more and find a good comparison to use. I have a high powered USB microscope that could probably spot it!!

[mannynotfound]

@azulryu

They should seriously consider doing test prints with commons and put the holo pattern on them and put those cards in random selected packs as a rare bonus. Would love to see some of this holo treatment on other cards!

That said, definitely a fake, but very cool in concept.

This is the slippery slope to 1/5 Ultra Prizm Gold Refractor Parallel Pikachus

[kurtosisblakeinfini]

@irishluck12

@kurtosisblakeinfini

give me the pusi fakes into reality b0ss

Interestingly enough I can’t remember ever getting a card during my years as a kid collector that didn’t come directly out of a booster pack or box set. I did some trades with friends at school but AFAIK they were buying from big box stores like Walmart because that was all we had back then really. Wish I knew more of the provenance on where the fakes came from. Looking at this fake it’s definitely one in going to keep in my own collection just because it is a very high quality fake (in my completely amateur opinion LOL) I wonder if there will ever be a market for specific fakes in the future some time. It seems like it would be an interesting collection to have on the side

These were packs of unreleased sets at the time. Bear in mind someone was able to attain info from cards to packs to boxes and make this possible to distribute to independent tourist shops.

Aside from NFT’s and fan art then I doubt it because fakes have no catch. The ones that absolutely should get converted no doubt are the ones that single handedly use the stock promotional art from sets. I’ve seen this with a Full Art of Mega Alakazam from the Fates Collide set art which in a broarder potential asks why not include the very same pack arts into excluive rare cards? Especially the japanese set arts holy shit. It’s that spectrum of what is fan art of serious quality from artists/ studios to obvious proxy/ GX VMAX *coughs Daniel Arsham coughs* big tiddie garbage kitsch.

[smokemon]

@muk

@smokemon

Light card for this test would be dead on. Can’t compare to the internet if you don’t know where the card came from as indicated in OP’s post

Take a look at this thread from last year.

www.elitefourum.com/t/should-i-return-this-is-it-a-fake-neo-rev-with-red-flags/28292/1

Tl;dr OP did the light test on a real Neo Rev holo and then insisted on it being fake even though dozens of e4 pros told them it’s real. Light test got them bamboozled.

Therefore I say the light test is misleading and has not much substance as a standalone test.

I wouldn’t use that thread as a basis for dismissing a test as I wouldn’t trust anything that OP did. Yes there will be variants that lie outside of the bellcurve, but this test would have worked for OP. The Spearow looks like a homemade card and wouldn’t have the inner graphite layer, so the light test in this case would have been apt.

No one said this is a standalone test, not sure where that’s coming from? I said this might be the easiest

[papafrankgod]

No one calling the rip in half method for the laughs? Oh cmoon…