Fake cards affecting the market or not?

[e2d2]

@nuttun Your post was so informative and helpful; I wish I could have given you an E4 version of Reddit gold! Also, your posts are always so patient. You are like the ambassador (or maybe translator) to the new members.

[KingPokemon]

@investingincards

?..I am aware that PSA go through an aging-of-the-card process when they grade cards…
Prices have grown so much that many people might take a loan because its an better investment than other “alternative investments” such as wine, paintings etc.

Again, i’m asking from a neutral point of view. It is my only interest that the market keeps rising.

Your “aging of the card process”, beyond observation…doesn’t exist.
Wine and paintings have long history’s of being forged.

I would recommend to you only to purchase from sellers that deal regularly in the high end collectible market. There’s no gamble that way;)

[nuttun]

@e2d2

@nuttun Your post was so informative and helpful; I wish I could have given you an E4 version of Reddit gold! Also, your posts are always so patient. You are like the ambassador (or maybe translator) to the new members.

Aw thank you ! Honestly, knowing that some members (like you) appreciate my detailed posts is all I need in trying my best to help out other members in the community. Everyone needs to start off somewhere, and when I first joined Efour everyone was super patient and kind with me too. I just want to pass off how I felt entering the community with anyone else joining, and it’s never a bad thing to lend a hand!

[RattlePokemon]

@cullers

@investingincards

Hi Cullers.

Thank you for your response to my thread. With a message like that, surely you have some sort of doubt about the future of the hobby, since you are reacting this way. I asked a simple question, that i was hoping to discuss with the forum, if not here, then where? I will gladly take my question somewhere else if possible. If i have offended you in any way, i am sorry. I understand these cards mean everything to some people, and questioning their future might not be easy for some to talk about, but i believe it is important to get more views on it, than just agreeing with everyone saying that the hobby is safe. Thank you for your suggestion about collecting my little pony, i have no interest in that. Still hope you will be willing to discuss the subject at some point.

Youre not interested in discussing anything. If you were you would have taken the points I had said and mentioned them despite the sarcasm. 95% sure this is just a troll.

*95% sure this is just Jayden the squishy faced attention whore.

[teraz]

@RattlePokemon

@cullers

Youre not interested in discussing anything. If you were you would have taken the points I had said and mentioned them despite the sarcasm. 95% sure this is just a troll.

*95% sure this is just Jayden the squishy faced attention whore.

@smpratte can check his registered email

[RattlePokemon]

@teraz

@RattlePokemon

*95% sure this is just Jayden the squishy faced attention whore.

@smpratte can check his registered email

He could make any new e-mail address. Too convenient that a brand new account registers to make a new post about it once he was no longer getting attention on here.

[teraz]

@RattlePokemon

@teraz

@smpratte can check his registered email

He could make any new e-mail address. Too convenient that a brand new account registers to make a new post about it once he was no longer getting attention on here.

I agree i think it’s Jayden. He probably did a new email after Scott already showed he registered his business email on a throwaway recently.

Seems like he’s just trying to push our buttons since we’ve been basically working on erasing his means of selling counterfeit goods.

I could be wrong, but the pedantic stubbornness smells familiar

[null_user]

@investingincards

If you sat with a bank and asked for a loan so you could invest in cards, and they asked you: How can we be sure that they cant be faked, and you said: They look crap and the quality is crap, i’m pretty sure they wouldn’t even lend you a penny.

Hi bank teller, why should I put my money with you? Money is valuable so people will try to fake it. How do I know the money I get from the ATM is real? Oh, because the quality is crap and it looks like crap and is very obvious to anyone who has handled money before.

@cullers

You should just stay out of it, and collect my little pony instead.

Low blow! I have a Princess Celestia clear chase variant by Funko that is signed by the voice actress I am quite happy to have in my collection.

[maverick75]

I think the fake GX lots hurt more. If you look them up they’re selling thousands and thousands of these and these sales all hurt retail stores and card shops.

The reviews are mostly from parents and grandparents. Why spend hundreds and hundreds to not have your child get the card they want when they just just buy a 20 GX lot with the charizard for $2.50?

The kid is probably too young to realize what a counterfeit is. The parents are happy because they’re saving a boat load of money.

Pokemon doesnt care since they don’t even bother to have these listings removed and neither does eBay since theyre getting their cut of profit. Even though counterfeits are supposedly not allowed on there.

[pfm]

As the quality of fake cards begins to approach real cards, the costs associated with equipment, materials, research, etc grows asymptotically.

As of today, the costs associated with producing a convincing (to a mildly trained eye) fake are just way to limiting. If it was easy, it would already be happening in baseball

[credits]

Just make the money straight up: The World Leader in Counterfeiting: Lima's Fake Dollars - YouTube

[thebrandonmoore]

@investingincards

Chok i definitely agree with you. I would also fake other cards first before touching Pokemon due to the prices. But whoever pays large amounts for Pokemon now, pay the price expecting the market to continue growing. At some point it might hit prices where it would be more interesting to fake a pokemon card than fake a baseball card. Thats why i think it is a healthy discussion to have.

There will always be people making counterfeits of anything, valuable or not. My best advice would be to weed sellers out through feedback/ references. Be especially careful when purchasing raw cards, especially the old stuff. If you’re unsure of something, take a picture and get third party opinions.

[theeucollector]

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