Disrespectful Best Offer

This lol. I’ve had so many people miss out on $300+ cards after I sent them a counteroffer because they just had to have it for $5-$10 less.

I had this happen with a shining mewtwo first ed. Ended up buying the card from a FB group after talking to a guy who was not coming near market on ebay, which I respected. Ended up getting the card for less and he upped his price by $400 dollars. Last I checked it was still unsold. Behaviors are weird lol

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I’m watching a sports card right now. Seller had it at $600…fmv was around $350. I offered $400. He declined immediately and raised to $750. He then raised to $1250 for whatever reason. Two months later it’s now at auction and currently at $175. I’m hoping to get it for less than $400. Would be satisfying lol

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A card, with a story. That much more enjoyable.

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Or they didn’t miss out on a “deal” and got a better price someplace else? If I personally set a budget for $300 for a card, I wouldn’t pay $305. Sticking to budgets is a good habit. I don’t argue with sellers but if I send any offer I do mention that this is my final price. Whether they choose to accept or not is obv their decision and I respect that.

If an offer is within a decent range then I will always send a counter offer back but if its too low then I will just ignore the offer rather than decline or accept. Either way I never feel disrespected just sometimes it’s worth my time to try negotiate and other times it isn’t.

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I usually have a value in mind for what I want to sell an item for and then stick it up on eBay with a BIN ~30-50% higher than that amount. If I want to sell something for $100 I’ll list it at $150 and wait for someone to offer close to $100. If I’m lucky someone will offer more than $100 and if I’m very lucky someone will outright buy it for the full $150.

With eBay’s auto-decline ability I don’t think there’s ever a reason to get annoyed by a low offer. If you’re continuously getting low offers it probably just means you’re overestimating the item’s value to begin with.

A surprising number of my Pichu cards have gone through this bizarre tango. Either I end up getting the card for lower than I originally offered or another copy appears for significantly less. I guess that’s probably expected though in my situation where I’m probably the only idiot prepared to go as high as I am on certain Pichu cards.

The best example I have of that from recent times is with my PSA 10 Holon Phantoms Pichu I picked up last August - despite being a common card and one of the most graded Pichu cards, the last PSA 10 Holon Phantoms Pichu to appear for sale before then was all the way back in 2017. The seller was aware of this and listed the card with a $600 BIN. I dropped what I felt was a very generous $250 offer which expired so I then upped it to $300. The seller declined the offer saying they’d “already had multiple higher offers” and that they didn’t appreciate my “lowball offer”. After that they upped the BIN price to $1,000 and it auto-declined a final $350 offer I left.

As fortune would have it another PSA 10 copy appeared for auction from a different seller just a few days later and I ended up winning that one for $47. 9 months on and the same card is still up on eBay, yet it now sits alongside 3 other copies - 2 of which have been up at $150 BIN for a while now with no takers.

I can’t tell if it’s people overestimating the value of their cards or listing items that they don’t really feel happy parting with in the first place. I don’t think anybody is ever going to pay more than $350 for a PSA 10 Holon Phantoms Pichu.

The point in my post was that (after some negotiation and counteroffers) I find it funny that I occasionally send an offer that is already 5-10% under fair market value / recent similar sales and people still end up not agreeing to the deal because they need to get it for $10 less, which is a small amount compared to the overall sale price of the card. I only said they “missed out” because (in most cases) somebody else comes along and hits “buy it now” so I actually end up making more than I would have. My intent was never to claim that sticking to budgets is a bad thing, that was not a claim I made. I have a number on everything I sell that I won’t go lower than as well, and I respect anybody’s decision to not purchase something from me. In fact, I love that a lot of these people did stick to a budget because I ended up making more from somebody else.

I just meant it’s funny to see people turn down a $275 offer for a $300 fair market value card because they had to get it for $265 and I still end up selling it for $300. :wink: