Dark Charizard 1st edition PSA 10

[PokemonClassics]

@poken00b88

@PokemonClassics

I’m betting we see a decent price increase in late June/July. I’ve been pretty active buying/selling/collecting WOTC for seven years now, and I’ve noticed that prices always rebound in the summer months. I know a large segment of this hobby is composed of college students, many of whom only earn a discretionary income at summer jobs . . . that’s not to say that prices will hit new all-time highs, but I think WOTC will see another surge. The way I see it, most sellers are on eBay year-round, but not all the buyers; this creates a winter saturation which results in sellers lowering prices to undercut one another. In the summer, the buyer pool increases starting a chain reaction in which auction prices increase, BIN listings increase due to greater demand, sellers become more hesitant to sell due to the upward trend in value, thereby diminishing the number of copies on the market. Of course, I’ve been wrong before, but I’m hoping to repost this in four months, so you will all be impressed with my foresight.

That’s how I see it as well. Lets hope we’re right or it will be time to start panic selling a few things.

I also think that PSA has played a role . . . in my opinion, PSA seems to have been significantly more generous with PSA10’s since they switched to there new labels. I’ve seen many weak 10’s hit the market recently and populations increase more dramatically than previous years. To be fair, this could also be a product of more people grading, but even a cursory glance of YouTube and Instagram shows that there are quite a few people cracking 9’s in hopes of 10’s. I have personally sold several extremely high value cards that were deservedly 9’s only to find out that those who bought them cracked them and resubmitted for 10’s.

[poken00b88]

Very true. I’m not really a player in the PSA 10 market on the higher end cards, but I even had to pass on some 9s that just didn’t look anywhere close to Mint to me.

I’m not a cracker, but I’ve honestly been tempted to send in some of my better 9s… I don’t know if it’s just PSA hiring a bunch of rookie graders to satisfy demand, but I haven’t been very impressed with them. They even give high grades to dented/creased cards which is unacceptable as it seems to happen quite often. I feel like they don’t take this hobby very seriously.

This is probably another reason why we see an increase in PSA 9 and a decrease in PSA 10 prices.

[budget]

@poken00b88

It’s because Pokemon GO is dead. lulz

No seriously, I have to agree with everyone here. I actually thought $600-700 was stupid low for Dark Charizard or even Blaine’s Charizard in 1st Edition. I expected these cards to hit the $1000 mark rather quickly, but I guess we can only wait and see what happens in the coming years. These numbers don’t make sense to me when I see Base Charizard upwards of $2000.

PSA 10 Base unlimited Zard isn’t selling for $2000. Most sales are ending lower.

[poken00b88]

@budget

@poken00b88

It’s because Pokemon GO is dead. lulz

No seriously, I have to agree with everyone here. I actually thought $600-700 was stupid low for Dark Charizard or even Blaine’s Charizard in 1st Edition. I expected these cards to hit the $1000 mark rather quickly, but I guess we can only wait and see what happens in the coming years. These numbers don’t make sense to me when I see Base Charizard upwards of $2000.

PSA 10 Base unlimited Zard isn’t selling for $2000. Most sales are ending lower.

You’re right. I had my results sorted by price rather than date last time I checked. I saw one sell as much as $2,299(January 30) but it seems it’s more of a $1,500(Late February) card these days. That’s very interesting. I might have to start buying again soon.

[budget]

@poken00b88

@budget

PSA 10 Base unlimited Zard isn’t selling for $2000. Most sales are ending lower.

You’re right. I had my results sorted by price rather than date last time I checked. I saw one sell as much as $2,299(January 30) but it seems it’s more of a $1,500(Late February) card these days. That’s very interesting. I might have to start buying again soon.

Are you sure that wasn’t a best offer listing? Sometimes listings with multiple quantities with best offers don’t appear properly.

Or it could be a shill.

In response to the dip in certain overhyped WotC cards… you’ve got to look at the long game if you want to treat Pokémon as investment now. Think years, not months.

None of the Zards are undervalued anymore. Everyone is quite aware of their existence and their significance to collectors.

Whenever a huge light is shone on an asset and people hype things up there’s always a correction.

[poken00b88]

@budget

@poken00b88

You’re right. I had my results sorted by price rather than date last time I checked. I saw one sell as much as $2,299(January 30) but it seems it’s more of a $1,500(Late February) card these days. That’s very interesting. I might have to start buying again soon.

Are you sure that wasn’t a best offer listing? Sometimes listings with multiple quantities with best offers don’t appear properly.

Or it could be a shill.

In response to the dip in certain overhyped WotC cards… you’ve got to look at the long game if you want to treat Pokémon as investment now. Think years, not months.

None of the Zards are undervalued anymore. Everyone is quite aware of their existence and their significance to collectors.

Whenever a huge light is shone on an asset and people hype things up there’s always a correction.

It was. I hate what that seller is doing, they list multi quantity items so you can’t even see what the last one sold for, but it was still a $2000+ card back then.

Yeah I know, I was more than expecting a certain retrace. That crazy growth wasn’t sustainable. Some people thought it was, but most of the guys here aren’t really surprised. Long term, I’m not really worried one bit about this hobby.

[lolzicost]

@PokemonClassics

I’m betting we see a decent price increase in late June/July. I’ve been pretty active buying/selling/collecting WOTC for seven years now, and I’ve noticed that prices always rebound in the summer months. I know a large segment of this hobby is composed of college students, many of whom only earn a discretionary income at summer jobs . . . that’s not to say that prices will hit new all-time highs, but I think WOTC will see another surge. The way I see it, most sellers are on eBay year-round, but not all the buyers; this creates a winter saturation which results in sellers lowering prices to undercut one another. In the summer, the buyer pool increases starting a chain reaction in which auction prices increase, BIN listings increase due to greater demand, sellers become more hesitant to sell due to the upward trend in value, thereby diminishing the number of copies on the market. Of course, I’ve been wrong before, but I’m hoping to repost this in four months, so you will all be impressed with my foresight.

I also noticed that a lot of people are selling cheap so they can have quick money for college. It will be interesting to see how the summer plays out.

[budget]

I think there’s a lot of undervalued cards, packs and boxes out there atm.

It’s just not the charizards people should be looking at.

Base 10 Venusaur and Blastoise shouldn’t be $200ish atm, it feels too low considering base packs are hitting $50.

Then eventually we will start seeing Fossil and Jungle 1st 10s creep into 4 figures… sealed product is where it’s at though.

[matrix]

Hope I can grab one at around 400 too.

[ruthlessrain]

Honestly it is such an awesome card and piece of the Rocket history. Even if the value slightly declined it is one of the cards everyone should try and have. That being said, long term I expect it go up