Any thoughts on whether Base 2000 will command a premium over Unlimited in time?
Got about half a binders worth, no holos unfortunately.
Bart you must have a fair few now, silently picking them up here and there 
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I found a 2000 pikachu for 4$ last weekend, its like a 7 or 8 quality (new psa 5 quality ) but I may just grade it
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I just ran through some of my bulk and found a bunch (no Pikas), all 8ish quality though. Don’t think the premium is there just yet to be grading them at $20 a pop, and I’m not sure outside of the holos if any of the other cards would command a premium over regular unlimited. My gut instinct says “doubtful”
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Awesome stuff and best of luck 
I know @smpratte has spoken about them being niche, of which he’s super correct, but there’s something to be desired about the fact that even opening a booster pack doesn’t 100% guarantee you a 1999-2000 holo - as, in fact, it could contain a 1999 holo. But congrats, and still plenty of time for you to pick up holos
I’ve been thinking of this, but I firmly believe Charmander and Pikachu will always command a premium - if unlimited is anything to go by, but most definitely I’d say Vulpix would be an ideal candidate - due to the corrections of the card which happen in this set ~
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That is glorious!
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Very cool! Want!!
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I have a few 4th print cards at PSA now through a bulk submission. Do you guys think they will label them correctly or I need to ask?
Looks like we know whose PSA 10 it was 
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It was either going to be TCA or GemMintPokemon. 
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Trueeee
It depends when you sent them ~
I sent them in October, they probably won’t grade them until the end of summer or even later.
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Lots of cards have been added to the census since today! ~
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Zapdos - check! 4 holos to go for me: Machamp, Magneton and Poliwrath shouldn’t be too hard to find, but I have yet to spot an Alakazam in the wild… Any thoughts on which holos are the rarest? The pop report doesn’t reveal much yet, but will definitely be interesting to track going forward.
A near complete 4th print set (only missing Alakazam and Charizard) is up on eBay by the way, if anyone’s interested. I personally try to avoid cards stored in “perfect fit” sleeves, but the overall condition of the cards seem ok. Too bad the Venusaur has a damaged corner…
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Nice!
The rarest card in the wild? Personally I’d say Nidoking - a bloody nightmare to get that card ~
Check styluspt’s other thread on his population report of 2018: www.elitefourum.com/t/base-set-4th-print-a-population-report-update-30-04-2018/19154/1
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The “Base set 1999-2000” label turned out nice.
Although, hypothetically, I’d prefer “Base 4th version/variant”. I’ve avoided using that term myself because I thought people wouldn’t understand what I meant. It pays tribute to the layout difference, it does NOT pay tribute to the mere year stamp when the cards are obviously different in other ways (i.e it keeps with the tradition of how sets are labeled) and it bypasses the whole debacle of how a print run is defined and the “4th version produced and therefore “printed” VS 3rd printer layout before stamp application”-situation.
4th version or 4th variant would be correct regardless. That is, if we dismiss all the potentially dedicated print runs of the ink versions of non-shadowless unlimited, but that is a much bigger can of worms lol.
Also, though “4th version” is superior to the year text, both are inferior to the terminology behind Shadowless. Unlike Shadowless, 1999-2000 does not have a single, distinct feature other than the year stamp. All the holos are different, so using a phrase like “light-tone” would be a half-measure as well, as some of the holos (like Chansey) have deeper colors than their unlimited counterparts.
Base 4th version or Base 4th variant is a nice catch-all phrase, emphasizing how the cards are their own breed, within the context of Base.
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100% agreed~
For example, @garyis2000 originally named what is now known as ‘Shadowless’: ‘No Shadow’, to which PSA eventually extended it to the term ‘Shadowless’ based on Gary’s extensive contributions. But you’re right, it doesn’t have a single distinctive feature given the Vulpix and Charizard cards, but I guess one could say the 1999-2000 copyright could be enough ~
A point of contention - for me personally, and quite a while - is that because “Base 2000” is more than just a variation in copyright insignia as it has numerable discernible traits. This was the last of the four Base Sets variants - so why not create a name to distinguish it? Such as: Base 2000, Eighth, Ultimate, Omega, Terminus, etc - just made up those single-terms ~ I spoke to @funmonkey54 about this, as CGC, for example, includes 1999-2000 under the banner of ‘Unlimited’ whilst not including 1st Edition or Shadowless under the same banner.
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Base Terminus has a nice ring to it! 
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Beckett are even labelling it as Fourth Print:
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PSA and CGC have gotten the spotlight as of late, but BGS is arguably the best value out there as far as new submissions. T/O times suck like the rest, however the BGS case is simply superior IMO. I’d also argue they are the most accurate grade out there for anything NM+.
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