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Iād state the opposite to this in my experience psa gives higher grades to my cracked cgc slabs. Cgc 7/8 iv crossed over have come back all psa 9
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Iām talking about dents. PSA automatically grades cards as a PSA 5 or PSA 6 if there is a dent. BGS and CGC regularly grade cards with dents as 8+. Thereās no right or wrong, just differences in their respective grading rules that can be exploited by those with knowledge.
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Hmm interestingā¦ I only grade with psa because I started a snorlax register and the obvious extra money available on resell if I was to sell my collection but push come to shove I prefer cgc slabs based on look aloneā¦.
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slander
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It is slander, the cabal doesnāt want you to know how great CGC is
CGC is #1 for collections. But PSA is #1 in resale value. At the end of the day money talks louder than better slabs, quicker TaT and cheaper grading prices.
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As always, the number #1 feature people care about is resale value. Thatās why PSA has the most volume and why the black label is the BGS golden goose.
The paradox in quality of service is that shorter turnaround and cheaper grading fees actually devalue your brand. Itās no coincidence that PSA cards saw their all time high value when PSA was effectively closed with $200 grading fees. Cheaper fees and faster turnaround attracts cheaper cards, higher volumes and submitters with less capital available to them. This leads to more CGC supply relative to demand and more sellers doing the churn and burn model. CGC has intentionally chosen this route to becoming the budget option which gives them a nice slice of the market but
suppresses their resale value. And as I mentioned, resale value and status as the luxury choice is the primary driver in the market.
So until you see a shift in pricing I doubt things will flip.
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bgs will be brought out and rebranded i personally feel and that could be cgc way to get more of the market place
My reason for using CGC is decreasing because:
PSA accepts Pokemon Art Academy and MTG Heroes of the Realm cards now.
TAG has a more transparent slab design if i donāt care about resale value.
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Isnt it also that CGC wont āupchargeāā¦whereas if you grade a super high end card at PSAā¦youre going to be dishing out quite a large amount of money in just grading fees.
Grading fees being marginal when talking about Trophy or other high end cardsā¦but on other high end cards, I could see that being something people consider.
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Theres a much higher chance of BGS rebranding and implementing a new standard and case and flipping CGC than there is CGC flipping PSA - in my opinion. The numbers donāt lie and as others have mentioned, CGC has cheapened its brand in several ways. You can say that BGS was owned by a billionaire fraudster, but when you get into the details of that, you see the situation doesnāt necessarily say anything of them. CGC on the other hand, seems to grade anything it can get itās hands on. Many things of dubious origin, authenticate it in shady and and opaque ways. They strike up unsavory business deals with total fuck faces and arenāt very cool - in my humble opinion.
@triple I disagree whole heartedly.
NO ONE is looking at the REAL Grading company: EMA Grading!
They will take PSAās place as the TRUE King of grading consistency, transparency, and most of all, slab design.
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Thatās part of it, but PSA upcharges for trophy cards mean nothing when the differential in actualized sales price is large.
For example, letās say that I am submitting a TMB Tropical Wind and I get a PSA 10. This might cost me $1,500 (Premium 2) at PSA because of its $37,000 market value, but only $150 at CGC (Walk Through). That $1,350 differential is quite large, however the PSA 10 will sell for ~$37,000 whereas the CGC 10 is selling for ~$14,000. That extra $23,000 makes it worth grading with PSA.
But this example is exaggerated because PSA 10s are rare for trophy cards. Letās talk about a more reasonable PSA 8 TMB Tropical Wind. Grading it at PSA would cost $500 (Walk Through) and $50 at CGC (Express). However, the differential in market value would be $2,200 ($7,700 in PSA 8 vs. $5,500 in CGC 8). Still, that heavily outweighs the $450 in additional grading fees.
Perhaps CGC becomes much more attractive in the lower grades (< PSA 7), where the prices could be more similar across grading companies.
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People still use CGC for trophies. The people that overextended themselves on the item purchase and are trying to shave off a few k in cost. If you just want it protected and donāt care about the company so you might go with the one that saves you money.
The incentive system means more insolvent people will grade with CGC and more likely to firesale items and fetch lower prices.
But it doesnāt matter if CGC grades high end and weird stuff. Ultimately people have the perception that PSA is a more luxury brand even if we can argue whatever thatās true or not.
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sure why not
Of course people still use CGC for trophies. People also use BGS and TAG for trophies. If adding a graded card to a collection is the purpose, people should use whatever company they prefer.
My response to hero was mostly to suggest that CGCās recent increase in grading trophy cards was not because of their cheaper grading fees, but because some folks are banned from PSA, have relationships with CGC execs, or know that their trophy could grade higher at CGC for the type of damage that it has.
And to be clear, I donāt mind trophy cards in CGC slabs at all. At the end of the day, the card matters the most, not the plastic or label around it. If you prefer one slab design or one label design to another, more power to you.
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I collected some CGC cards during the pandemic but ultimately went back to PSA. The grading and prices are more consistent.
I do prefer the CGC case and new label. I actually didnāt mind the blue label either.
I hope PSA modernizes their slabs but probably little incentive to do that.
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