Booster box value

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The bigger the risk, the higher the reward can be. With boxes, yeah, they all will go up in price as time goes on and less become available. But you can only get so much value out of it. With stocks, you can really hit the jackpot. My Econ teacher in high school would always be telling us how he bought 1,000 Apple shares back when it was $25 per. The price then went up to $110 per share a few years later.
You just have to understand how the market works and time your investments correctly… Which is easier said than done. If you don’t want to take that much risk, boxes are always a solid investment.

That’s very debatable, an investment into Nike, Microsoft, or Walmart is probably less risky ten years from now then a box of cards. You also have gov bonds like @woolsluk already mentioned.

There’s also far less risky physical assets, you ever hear of gold or land? The land of course depends upon the location.

People need to recognize that Pokemon cards are collectibles for collectors, not investments for investors. I’m starting to see a trend of more and more people asking the “what is the more valuable card __ years from now question”. The irony is the more we see that question means the more we’re seeing investors instead of collectors. The more investors in the hobby = more supply in the future = less value in the product = the opposite of what an investor wants.

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I don’t think that’s necessarily true. If the people buying these boxes years from the investors end up opening them or keep them stashed away in their collection, then then supply available on the market decreases still. The prices would still go up. How much h depends on the popularity/availability of the set. Everything else you said though is pretty spot on.

No I’ve never heard of gold or land.

My point is that buying a booster box and sitting on it is probably less risky than buying shares, where if you want to make any sort of significant money you’d have to invest into riskier smaller companies or invest a large wedge of money into a large company.

For the amount of money you can buy a booster box for, it’s pretty pointless to put that money into a stock if it’s something you’ve never done before because a) you lose money as soon as you buy and b) with broker fees, stamp duty and the fact that as soon as you buy you’re down its pretty pointless.

Obviously I’m not saying Pokemon cards are a better investment than a business or bonds but in the context of this thread I think that the suggestion of instead investing into shares (and gold) is irrelevant, IMO :blush:

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Also people invest in things such as art, cars, comics and other collectables. All speculative markets but people invest in them not just for money but because they enjoy the item. That’s part of the enjoyment surely :stuck_out_tongue:

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Right on the money!

I am about 60% stocks, 20% bonds, 5% precious metals, 5% pokemon and 10% liquid cash.

I think 2-5% Pokemon can improve any portfolio for diversification purposes.

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Boxes are probably true, I defiantly wasn’t arguing against that although I probably didn’t make it as clear as it could be. I felt this conversation was going towards pure investment vs box investment, hence my comment “Pokemon cards”.

Honestly, there’s exceptions to every rule including some individual cards in Pokemon. My last paragraph is more for the in general.

For example, there’s many comic book collectors out there that have hoards of comics because they were saving them as investment. What many of them find out, and are still finding out is that there comics are worth virtually nothing no matter how old they got. There’s obviously some really rare comics that are worth thousands, but in general it was a very poor investment.

Now if were talking about only boxes and the rare cards, I still feel there’s better investments or safer ones. Precious metals and gov bonds are far more stable then any box or card, while property and high risk investments are going to have a far higher potential for a return on investment.

@gottaketchumall makes a good point about diversifying. If you want an investment that you enjoy great I hope you enjoy it because it’s defiantly not the best investment, but that shouldn’t matter anyway. If you’re going to buy up a bunch of cards, even if really rare, only for investment you’re doing it wrong. Like I said pokemon cards are collectibles are for collectors, not investments for investors.

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I just opened like 12 Dragon Frontiers packs. Now I’m wishing I kept them sealed…

I think limited print run boxes will jump in value, 1999-2000 Base, Red Logos (including Jungle which I think is undervalued & No, I don’t own any jungle red logo), Legendary Collection, etc.

To be honest I think the value of wanting to invest in the box is sort of negated by the fact that if you only wanna invest such a little amount of money as literally one or two boxes then to be honest it’s not really worth it anyway, you would be better saving that money clearly as you don’t have too much spare.

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Depends on your ability to keep them sealed. I have to keep my sealed items in a different country in order to stop myself.

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With a discount broker your fees for stocks can be as low as $4. I have bought mutual funds in my Roth for $0 fees and there is no income tax, because it is a Roth.

Investing in the stock market = drinking problem and no sleep.

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Wotc legendary boxes
Japanese ex series boxes
All wotc in general

Lol guys! I thought this is supposed to be a secret! Don’t tell everyone to buy the booster boxes, or else everyone will Know :wink:

I beg to differ… silvers price has fluctuated massively between 2010 and now, including dropping $30+ per ounce from its high point… which booster box have you seen do that?

Don’t invest money you can’t afford to lose. Treat it like a long term investment with a set goal in mind where you have no intention of touching the money till the time period is over, the longer the time the better. If you don’t know how to invest in stocks find someone or a company that does, make sure they know how to diversify based on your goals, and do you research on who’s out there. Quick plug: I use Betterment, and because they have a referral program feel free to use my referral link if anyone decides to sign up Betterment. Look at your portfolio quarterly, not daily. There’s always going to be fluctuations no need to stress yourself. If you plan on investing over time don’t try and time the market, it’s almost impossible just invest on a consistent pace.

Does that 5% include the value of your collection?

I went to Youtube once and watched someone take a 8k 1st ed base box and changed it’s value to under $500.

Really I don’t want to debate this anymore, there’s exceptions to every rule as I stated. If you want to pick and choose out of a huge array of precious metals you’re going to win, I could generalize and start saying my Harry Potter booster box has gotten pretty worthless compared to when I first bought it. I won’t do that though, you’re right there’s some metals that aren’t as secure as pokemon booster boxes.

My main point was that booster boxes are really quite stable, for the majority of them its been a slow and steady rise, and that will continue

edit; and when i say booster boxes, i mean specifically pokemon, wouldn’t know enough about the harry potter market to comment haha :stuck_out_tongue: