I had a thought earlier, has any one tried cracking a black label to psa. Then cracking and resubmitting that (most likely) psa 10 and sending it back to Beckett. How likely would it be to come back a black label? Would be interesting to see
What would be the point? The odds of the exact same card getting the black label grade again are none to impossible 
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Shouldn’t be impossible if someone has already deemed it black label wouldn’t you think ?
Why should someone do this? It would be a complete waste of time and money.
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You’re assuming there is consistency with black label grading
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Purely to see how definitive grading scales are. And if it didn’t come back as black label. Then what’s to say other black labels aren’t true black labels, i guess every grader views the cards different
They are not definitive, especially not when a 0.5 subgrade matters that much. Watch PFMs video, he explained it perfectly! I´m almost certain that a black label getting resubmitted will not come back as black label again, even though I have not tried it as there is literally 0 incentive to do it. You can also try resubmitting 10s to PSA and they will not always come back as 10s but there´s a much higher probability than resubmitting black labels. You need to understand that people who buy black labels buy it because they want the label.
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When I translate a sentence from Dutch to English and then back to Dutch using Google Translate, the sentence never comes out the same. I would imagine Beckett’s Black Labels to behave in much the same way.
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Yeh that’s what I’m trying to get at, like someone would buy it purely cos it’s black label, but it gets resubmitted to psa as a 10 then back to bgs as a 10 pristine, people would turn there noses up even though it’s the same card 
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Yes, people buy a black label because it´s the ultimate grade given by their (favorite) grading company. They are incredibly rare that´s what creates the allure. Just because it´s a black label doesn´t mean it´s a perfect card, the same as a PSA 10 doesn´t equal another PSA 10.
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feels like a waste of money 
Sounds like something no one of sound mind would do.
The idea of cracking a black label makes me cringe. It would be unthinkable to do such a thing. I once cracked a psa 10 card to get autographed and as soon as I did it I asked myself what are you doing! lol
Well you are buying the label not the card so it shouldn’t matter if you break the card out
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It’s an interesting thought experiment. You could make use of the grade crossing system at both companies so that you dont have to do the cracking yourself.
The one issue I have is that you can’t do this one time. In order to infer anything meaningful, you’d have to do this at 20 times but preferably hundreds of times to obtain a meaningful statistic.
I think it’s funny that responses here are saying this is crazy or a waste of money. The whole experiment will cost under $100, it really isn’t a significant amount. Unless the “loss” comes from the fact that you likely won’t get the black label again. In which case, the perception is that the experiment won’t result in a black label again. If it is crazy to think your card could be regraded to the same grade, then does the grade even mean anything at that point?
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Putting aside what everyone has already stated: it would be a waste. There are still some other factors to keep in mind:
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The risk it gets damaged. You first have to crack it out of the BGS case, then ship it to PSA, let it stay there for a couple of weeks/months/years, it has to ship back to you, you have to crack it again, ship it to BGS, stay there for a couple of weeks, ship once again back to you. Doing all that, it honestly wouldn’t even surprise me if it comes back as a BGS-8.5 instead of BL10…
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The 0.5 differences of BGS are very small. I personally own a BGS-10 (3x 10, with 9.5 on edges) and BGS-BL10 for the exact same card, but the differences of the cards itself are astronomical small. They both would without a doubt get a PSA-10 (I’ve hand-picked three Moltres from a total of 50, which were sealed beforehand, to be send to BGS. One that returned was the gold label 10 with 9.5 on edges, and the other two were a 9 and 9.5. I later on bought the BGS-BL10. (And yes, I did pay for the Label. I think everyone who buys a BGS-BL10 does tbh…) And although in this case I do see a tiny, tiny bit of whitening at one of the back edges of the gold label 10, giving it a deserved 9.5, the 0.5 marges are small enough to differ even though cards look exactly the same.
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There are different graders. I know grading should be objective, and every grader would look at the same things and give the exact same grade based on that, but I honestly don’t believe it. As long as humans are grading, errors will be made, and different graders will look at cards different. Giving 0.5 differences between graders is therefore not something I would be surprised to see.
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We see people cracking PSA-9s and submitting it 5+ times to eventually get a (weak) PSA-10. And this is a whole grade difference. If those kind of things can happen with whole grades at PSA, which I personally think is slightly more consistent than BGS from what I’ve seen, a difference of 0.5 in one of the four categories (so basically a difference of 0.125), definitely has a high chance of occurring…
But again, this is all just theory. I doubt anyone would crack their BGS-BL10 for an experiment like that. But feel free to ask the buyer of that recent 10k USD BGS-BL10 Shiny Charizard. 
I certainly won’t do it with my Moltres, that’s for sure. 
Greetz,
Quuador
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I wouldn’t attempt that. The more a card is handled the possibility of it grading lower increases.
It also want really prove anything. It’s too small of a sample size. Just my opinion.
Try grading some OC’s sometime if ya want to throw money away and find out how definitive the grading system can be
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